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I think the distinction between China and the US is how they directly treat their own citizens. Arguments could be made that they're both equally shitty in that regard, but in different ways.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/
Googling this took me a couple of seconds. Less time than writing a comment.
"Ash Center for Democratic Governance and Innovation, formerly known as the Ash Institute, was established in 2003 and is part of the Harvard Kennedy School at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, in the United States."
You were saying?
Goal post shifting much?
You: It's just Chinese propaganda with no source!
Me: provides source
You: Well it's not a Harvard study!
Me: It definitely is.
You: Well that study sucks anyway!
Me: 🙄
If you think a result where 95.5% of any population have their opinion aligned means there nothing wrong going on behind the scenes, you must be naive as hell.
It's a western study! Is Harvard part of a communist conspiracy or what's your point?
A western study doesn't make the participants any less pressured by their authoritative goverment to not give negative feedback. Regardless of who asks the questions, these people still live their lives under the goverment.
It would be one thing to have a majority of their citizen be satisfied with how a goverment is run, but 95.5% approval rating is just illogical. It could only happen if there is pressure to give a positive answer or they are living in a utopia, and we all know human nature rules out the possibility of the second from ever existing.
You'd think the libs at Harvard would mention this. How do you think this actually works?
Better explanation: China has lifted 800 million out of poverty over 40 years, and quality of life has improved massively for almost everyone (also things that are confirmed by western institutions). Why would they not approve of the government?
What were the repercussions for saying they were dissatisfied? Say what you will, but the US doesn't use your loved ones as leverage if you speak out against the US. Their embassies don't arrest and detain American civilians in other countries.
Aside from all that, I sincerely find it hard to believe that 93% of people in a country will agree on something, let alone their government. To me that indicates a fear of criticism, not an amazing government.
The US imprisons 4x more people per capita. And China lifted 800 million people out of poverty in the last 40 years. How are they equally shitty?