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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

OK this is low-hanging fruit but ChatGPT-4o (4o? what even is branding?) was demoed with a feminine voice, So HN discussed it. And a couple extremely horny users can't stop talking about robot girlfriend sex and the end of relationships

the western world is already experiencing a huge decline in womens sexual appetites -- AI will effectively make women completely uninterested in men

An AI girlfriend that isn't going to bring up the last three time you fought because you forget her birthday/called her fat/hit on her friends? are you sure you understand the target market?

I guess I can never understand the perspective of someone that just needs a girl voice to speak to them. Without a body there is nothing to fulfill me.

And after that you have a robot that listens to you, do your chores and have sex with you, at that point she is "real".

If you want to solve procreation them you can do that without humans having sex with humans.

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

countries with GPUs

Did this person forget how the internet works? Or is he imaging that people just buy a desktop to fuck (and that any desktopsexuals have not done so already. (keep that blacklight away from my dvd player please).

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 15 points 7 months ago

It’s the same fantasy zero-depth comprehension as the chuds who thought they could transact in only bitcoin come the fall of civilisation, in the same delivery format: thonkwits trying to cloutfarm in hypewave

[–] yellowcake@awful.systems 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

countries with GPUs

GPU is the new WMD

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

mr president, we cannot allow GPU gap!

wait fuck

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago

"And with the proper breeding ratio of, say, 10 chatbots to each male..."

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 3 points 7 months ago

Didn't Futurama already do that bit?

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It never ceases to amaze me watching these tech bros breathlessly hyping the next revolutionary product for it to be a huge nothing burger. Like that's it? You gave gpt an image to text input + and a text to speech app? Dawg, I've been watching Joe Biden & Trump play Fortnite for 5 years at this point, text to speech just doesn't hit the same anymore.

I mean my god, at least some hardcore engineering went in to making the migraine inducing apple vision pro. If this is the best card in oai's deck, I would be panicking as an investor.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Well, I suppose dating a chatbot taped to a fleshlight is exactly the sort of relationship these people deserve. Self-solving problem.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have now looked it up and heard ChatGPT-Four-Oh's incredibly obnoxious fake-enthusiastic advert person voice. These people are very very sick.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago

that's the parasocial relationship they deserve

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago

Saw that twominutepapers did a breathless stan video about the performance of it, and it featured some rather choice opinions about the “very naturally sounding voice” too

These boots must be made of something rather hardy, to not fall apart under all this licking

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It got submitted to lobste.rs too and there are some insane takes there too

https://lobste.rs/s/ph5o0a/openai_gpt_4o

this model has lower latency, and they’ve priced it at half of the previous model’s price, despite it having comparable or better performance. If this is not a dumping price,[...]

Yeah it's totes more efficient, it's not like Altman/MSFT are desperate to goose subscriber numbers

I’ve seen first-hand how it helps non-programmers write programs to solve their problems (with “bad” code, but bad code is still empowering people), and I think that’s important given that software has been eating the world.

Couldn’t the thousands of people now free from mundane work, work together now on solving climate issues or issues that require physical human labor?

if LLMs/AI can run byrocracies (and whole countries) more efficiently, there are potential energy savings there too.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

fml i thought these were the smarter techies

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] gerikson@awful.systems 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] jonhendry@awful.systems 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Shirley Manson or GTFO. But I don't think they'd like her.

[–] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 4 points 7 months ago

Come on, her voice sounds like garbage.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago

this is an absolutely accursed post, well done

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Talking about the demo and not those HN reactions (they suck): So we all in tech have collectively forgotten the whole 'apple iphones didn't actually work when they were being presented and it was all just theatre' thing? Because I wouldn't trust a slick tech demo like that at all. (I also want to know about all the edge cases where it fails and well, there is also the whole 'what is this even for?' thing). (And yes some HN people did voice these concerns).

E: also don't these GPT things have a sort of token limit? After a while they just get stuck in 'cannot accept more new data' mode basically (which I assume is a limit so people don't use up too much compute (I hate how we are making that a word now)), how would that work? (This is more about the robofuckers, who have also not learned anything from the previous gen of this shit when somebody turned the naughty cybersex function off).

[–] mii@awful.systems 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Don't forget about how the presentations for Google Gemini and OpenAI Sora and Devin were all ~~faked~~ embellished too, but no one talks about that anymore either.

I'm still waiting for even one actual use-case for sexy Clippy that isn't generating SEO spam while speedrunning climate change.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

Some people at the EFF (or people who used to work there at least, apparently they sort of sold out, not clear on the details dont quote me on this one) prob had a small heart attack on the privacy concerns of linking cameras with openAI gpt systems. Chatbot powered advertisements, as seen in the movies!