this post was submitted on 15 May 2024
204 points (87.8% liked)

Fuck Cars

9602 readers
1156 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

A highway camera photo shows traffic in FortMcMurray jammed in the southbound lane of Highway 63 on the north side of the Athabasca River. The image was captured at 3:11 p.m. MT, about an hour after an evacuation order was issued for four neighbourhoods. (511 Alberta)

Evacuation order issued as wildfire threatening Fort McMurray draws closer https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-wildfire-grande-prairie-fort-mcmurray-1.7203695

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I was leaving on a car trip a few years back, and unbeknownst to me, about 20miles up the road, a huge thunderstorm had brought down some trees and power lines, blocking one part of the northbound highway, during early rush hour. We got stuck for 3 hours trying to get past it. No matter which side road, turn, whatever we took, it was jammed. We waited for an hour on one small side road only to get sent back because a line was down at an intersection. This wasn’t a major natural disaster, things went back to normal in a couple hours. But it really drove home to me how pointless it would be relying on escaping/evacuating from a real disaster if you didn’t get out early. I don’t say this to suggest that people shouldn’t follow evacuation orders, they absolutely should; an evacuation order is early warning. I’m saying this to suggest that none of us should assume that we’ll just be able to get out in an emergency, particularly in a car. It just doesn’t take that many people on the road to completely seize the system.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This makes me think of movies, the scenes when like Godzilla or the stay puft marshmallow man or something shows up and everyone just gets out of their cars and runs away on foot. Movies are silly but in a panic scenario the car could easily become more of a hindrance than anything.

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah absolutely. This is one of the things that movies seem to get right. Also in post apocalyptic disaster type movies, you often see freeways with just huge empty traffic pileups.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We go to Cape Cod every year, and this has really hit me each time. The Cape is a good sized peninsula, but connected to the mainland by only two bridges. It’s already enough of a bottleneck to be backed up by tens of miles on summer weekends: an actual evacuation attempt would be so much worse

Shore Traffic is bad no matter where you go, but I’ve never seen any as bad as Cape Cod

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, I’ll bet. It hasn’t happened as far as I know, but that’s the kind of situation where things like really strong storm surge or tsunamis would be pretty rough to evacuate from. I assume there are some ferry’s, maybe the region could mobilize a personal craft flotilla for a evac rescue, like dunkirk…

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

That would be an adventure!

  • there’s a train, but summer only and might be once a day so won’t help much
  • there’s a small airport, but I Don’t know if there is any scheduled service, so won’t help much
  • yep, several ferries but might be summer, I don’t know. That would help a little if they’re running

Yeah, I can picture hundreds of small boats