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… but it’s just a few bad apples. Most cops are very fine people.
Edit: /s Jesus
I'm sorry, kinda hilarious that you had to add a sarcasm tag. And sad.
I was hopeful the two separate clues - “just a few bad apples” plus “very fine people on both sides” would be a banger. Maybe it was just too good.
Wanted a post-scarcity world but ended up with a post-satire one instead.
Nah it's because there are people who actually believe that shit so it's hard to gauge sarcasm.
It's a lot like how people make jokes about landlords. A lot of the people are being sarcastic but there's enough of them that are serious that you can't really tell the difference.
This goes so hard. I'd love this on a shirt
The only good advertising I've ever seen
The original intent of that metaphor is correct in your use, but it’s rarely recognized. It began as “a rotten apple quickly infects its neighbor.” Over time, it became “one bad apple ruins the bunch.” Now it’s used as just “one bad apple” to infer minimal or selective corruption, completely discrediting the point of the analogy.
It's also worth noting the implication of the full phrase. If you remove the bad apples quickly enough, then you can save the rest. If you can remove the corrupt elements, then you can protect the group overall. If you leave them to fester then you'll have a lot more cutting required to clean up.
Absolutely. Also very applicable to OP’s point.
But you're not wrong. It's a sampling bias.
I only know like 2 dozen cops. One's an absolute blowhard, but the rest are decent people. I don't expect them all to be nice, because I've seen reports on TV otherwise; it'd be foolish.
The cherry-picking starts with US newsmedia. I'm glad our cops are different, at least.
The problem that brings up the idea of no good cops is, if these 23 other cops are good, and this one is bad, why is there still the bad cop? Why do the other 23 not push that bad cop out?
It's kind of ironic that you had to add the /s since most people never think to finish the adage.
Like "pull yourself up by your bootstraps", its full meaning has been cut off in order to support the opposite point.
... they fine just a few people. But most apples are bad cops.
Lawsuit incoming from Golden Delicious PD