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submitted 4 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

the problem isn't engagement, it's the lack of the fulfillment of the social contract.

what is the point in engaging for them if they aren't going to be rewarded with good jobs, homes, families, and a sense of progress and security? there isn't any. so they give up. at least the bottom half do. For the top quartile of men, those things are still on offer.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

maybe?

I don't really like the traditional interpretation of social contract theory, it's very Pavlovian, which works, but seems rather dystopian. Works well for conceptualizing society, but doesn't build a productive one i think. Like you said, we need to give men something to do, something to work for, and something to enjoy. And outside of that, they need a place in society that they can exist, without limitation. Because currently, there isn't really a space for them. Arguably there isn't one for women either, so addressing both of those would be beneficial.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

They weren't faulting the men. They were saying society itself has largely disengaged from young men.