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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Of course they are. The point is it is normalised and that's the issue.

Women telling men what they should do, what they shouldn't do, how everything in their life is other men's fault and no one else's. All perfectly acceptable.

If we want men to be happier mentally we should start by asking men what they need. What we shouldn't do is get women to tell then what they need. Also women need to take responsibility for the negative things they do, why should they get a free pass to mistreat people? Just because they aren't "part of the patriarchy"?

Like I seen this the other day. Some guy talking about what makes him happy and he gets told he's sad for doing it.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/ZwELEUQKcwkpvdVc/?mibextid=xCPwDs

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My point is, women dont do things like that. The wrong type of women do though.

I have been in the same relationship for 15 years and my partner and I respect what we do and support each others interests. Its the same with our friends. Some times we'll meet people in dysfunctional relationships and try to help. But in the end its up to people to decide what they accept

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They're speaking about their experience and you just completely dismissed it as "women don't do things like that, the wrong type of women do."

I recall a man/bear hypothetical being posted recently and any man that said "not all men" was shouted down and called a misogynistic rape apologist or worse.

When someone speaks about their lived experiences it's best to just listen and acknowledge, not try to defend shitty people.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if you assume that I am a woman, or you are trying to make me cheer for the bear.

I understand that people have personal experiences that can be hard and even unbearable, to even talk about, but that does not justify one saying that men are like that and women are like this. I understand that it is important to share about ones lived experiences but also important not to make conclusions about all humanity based on the few people you have had a relationship to

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

We agree it's important not to judge an individual based on the actions of a group. It unfortunately happens all the time.