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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If Biden wants to help people he needs to reduce the reliance on fossil fuels.

Like subsidizing the cost of EVs with a $7500 tax credit that was accomplished in the Inflation Reduction Act Biden signed almost 2 years ago in August 16, 2022? source

He needs to revise the rules that incentivize building larger, hungrier vehicles,

So like Biden's Department of Transportation did in April 2022 by raising CAFE standards that took effect this year in 2024? source

Anyone who drives a truck or SUV when they could easily just own a station wagon has negative respect from me.

I'm not a fan of SUVs either, but there are very few station wagons produced for the USA market, and those that are get about the same MPG as a small SUV. BEVs or hybrids (even if they are small or medium sized SUVs) are better choices than the few station wagons we that are available for sale today.

I am aware, also, that several things can happen at once but centrists are always so fucking weak in their responses to anything and never solve any problems without the left having to twist their arm every which way for decades. It’s exhausting.

So what does that make your position where the things you're asking for passed into law years ago and you're here complaining about them not existing? Uninformed?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The EV thing isn’t the worst, though I’d like to see that money going towards public transportation for more people. It’ll always be better and all that really does is help the rich stay richer while poorer folk still need to buy used gas-powered vehicles until a used EV market picks up.

Maybe it’s in there and I just didn’t see it but the biggest issue with the CAFE laws is that there are exceptions for huge vehicles that no one needs which makes them cheaper to manufacture. A smaller, lighter wagon will generally have more space, actually, and be better on fuel but no one makes them because they realized they could just pump ads at people focused on “feeling powerful” in large vehicles. You can also make the wagons EV and the smaller size and weight will improve their range, too. You’re looking at how things are instead of how they easily could be(and were not too long ago).

I know Biden’s done ok with some stuff but it’s still kinda weak and the fact that he’s looking for a pat on the back for the bare minimum is kinda pathetic. And people still have to vote for the dumbass because the DNC won’t let anyone better come forward and the GOP are a disaster like no other.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The EV thing isn’t the worst, though I’d like to see that money going towards public transportation for more people.

Public transportation spending like the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law that was signed into law by President Biden on November 15, 2021? source

"The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, as enacted in the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, authorizes up to $108 billion for public transportation – the largest federal investment in public transportation in the nation’s history."

Maybe it’s in there and I just didn’t see it but the biggest issue with the CAFE laws is that there are exceptions for huge vehicles that no one needs which makes them cheaper to manufacture.

I agree that the "fleetwide calculation" loophole the NHTSA uses does too much to let automakers off the hook on a big part of the SUV fuel economy increase standards. I'd like this loophole closed or the rules revised drastically. However, even with the "light truck" loophole, the increased CAFE standards force SUVs to get slightly more fuel effient because of the required "fleetwide average" in place now.

You can see we get a series of small increases on "light trucks" highway mileage with a nice 3MPG bump in 2025 source

I'd like more, but its not nothing.

A smaller, lighter wagon will generally have more space, actually, and be better on fuel but no one makes them because they realized they could just pump ads at people focused on “feeling powerful” in large vehicles. You can also make the wagons EV and the smaller size and weight will improve their range, too. You’re looking at how things are instead of how they easily could be(and were not too long ago).

Okay, so your comment earlier about wanting people to buy station wagons was for a theoretical car that isn't on the market in the USA, right?

I know Biden’s done ok with some stuff but it’s still kinda weak and the fact that he’s looking for a pat on the back for the bare minimum is kinda pathetic. And people still have to vote for the dumbass because the DNC won’t let anyone better come forward and the GOP are a disaster like no other.

  • Largest public spending in public transportation EVER
  • Large tax credits to incentivize EV purchases
  • Large increases in CAFE standards with large impacts on cars (and some good impacts on SUVs).

Besides tightening up the "light truck" loophole, can you please tell me what you'd expect that doesn't qualify for the "bare minimum" that you're calling the efforts so far?