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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's a bad sign when people keep seeing this and their response is to downvote and defend Biden even more aggressively.

Like, I can't imagine anyone who pays attention to politics thinking that browbeating people into voting for candidates they don't like would be successful.

Like, it only worked in 2020 because trump was in office, but so many think it somehow means Biden is a great candidate and it's a weird coincidence it took him 32 years to win his first presidential primary

The easiest way to beat Trump, is to run a popular candidate. And if Biden can't accomplish anything more than the little he managed the first time, why wouldn't we just run the Dem with the best shot at winning?

Biden literally barely managed it last time, and his numbers are worse across the board pretty much everywhere.

Polls consistently show Trump leads Biden in most of the seven crucial swing states that will likely decide the election—Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania—all of which Biden won narrowly in 2020 with the exception of North Carolina.

Burying your head in the sand only helps trump.

There's time to at least get Biden to stop pissing off the people he needs to win, and since the convention hasn't happened yet, there's even still time to just run someone people like and want to vote for.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

why wouldn't we just run the Dem with the best shot at winning?

Because Biden is the sitting President. The only person who can decide that the sitting President isn't running is the President himself. See Johnson in '68.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

In practice, but that's because the party has always defaulted to supporting the incumbent.

The sitting president can't just declare they're the only option.

However what decides the candidate isn't a primary election, those are completely nonbinding and more like a survey than anything.

So even if Biden lost the primary, the DNC could say he's the candidate anyways.

So in practice you're right. But saying it the way you did makes it sound like it wouldn't be affront against democracy if it came down to the president losing the primary and the party running them anyways

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This was NBC News August 2019. "But Trump" isn't going to work again. The latest polling shows that.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The way people act Biden pulled a FDR landslide type victory, and not by an incredibly slim margin in a handful of states.

Just completely detached from the reality of what happened 4 years ago, and in such an obvious way that the more they scream about it, the less people believe anything coming from Biden, his campaign, or his supporters.

They just want to keep repeating "Biden is popular" and hope people start believing.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The delusion is real with many of them. Insert surprised Pikachu in November when they wonder why their voter shaming instead of pushing Biden to do something didn't work.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I mean, obviously if Biden losses it's because some people said it would happen.

Like, if your doctor tells you smoking 10 cartons of cigarettes a day will give you cancer, then tells you that you have cancer?

Obviously that means your doctor is a witch and gave you cancer. Couldn't possibly be that she was trying to warn you about the logical results of your actions, that would mean it's your fault.