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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

An analysis I read said NY almost never imprisons a first time fraud offender. If true then it's pretty unlikely he will be imprisoned at all.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On one hand you're right about first time offenders, but on the other he's made it clear monetary fines don't dissuade him (e.g. the ten he got for his truth social attacks on the judge and co.) which could in turn influence the decision regarding jailtime.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a good point.

On the other hand, the best lawyers money can buy.

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That does not describe his lawyers...

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It was just an assumption, he has money, lawyers are paid with money.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

hes bad about following through with the last part, hence the dip in lawyer quality.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 5 points 5 months ago

A trump does not simply pay his bills.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Cohen was a first time offender and did 3 years for the same crime.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

This is patently untruthful.

First, Cohen’s conviction was federal. Trumps are state.

Second. Trump is convicted of fraudulent business records. Cohen was convicted of lying to a financial institution, tax fraud, unlawful corpo contributions, and excessive campaign contributions. (Source)

[–] Peer@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 months ago

Not the same crime, the same crime plus tax evasion and making false statements to a federally-insured bank.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's true. I guess it will come down to the details. Though will be interesting to see if the feasibility of actually sending Trump to prison (and protecting him, without 24/7 solitary confinement) weighs into it.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Put him in a jail cell, post Secret Service outside the door. Problem solved. :)

I know, I know, it's not that simple. Some poor bastard is going to have to make sure he doesn't drop the soap in the shower.

But if Martha Stewart was kept safe, they can do it for Trump.

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago

What if they commit fraud 36 more times? How about then?