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The latest proposal mandates user consent for monitoring messages on all communication apps, including those with end-to-end encryption.

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[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would rather kill and die than give up those rights

[–] tal 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Well, if you don't live in the EU, it doesn't directly matter, other than in your ability to communicate with people in the EU.

If you live in the EU, then I suspect that talking to European political entities like the various Pirate parties, or to EDRi to try and get it legislatively-reverted is probably a step to take a little before killing and dying.

If you live in the EU and it doesn't get legislatively-reverted and you consider it to be totally unacceptable, well, there are a number of countries in the area that I imagine people can migrate to, like the UK or Switzerland or Norway. I'd probably look into that before the whole killing thing.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oppression anywhere is oppression everywhere.

[–] tal 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't want Europeans legislating rules for me in the US. I wouldn't try to legislate for them.

I think that this is a really bad law, but the Europeans are gonna have to determine what kind of society and rules they want themselves.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Did they determine it? Like I am pretty sure they didn't have a vote where people voted "yes please give away all of my personal data to the government". You know, democracy

[–] Macros@feddit.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Soon there are European elections. Voting for the Pirate parties and getting other people to vote for them is a good way to stop this. They are fighting hard against this law. Especially Patrick Patrick Breyer of the German one. Anja Hirschel, who will follow him, will likely continue with the same vigor.

Donations are also a great way to support. Donate to the Pirates, EDRI, or local groups opposing this.

[–] bokster@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

Pirate Party in Slovenia did not qualify for elections. They needed the support of 1.000 constituents, but when the officials did the count they only had 970 signatures.

What I'm saying is - your mileage my vary.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 5 months ago

Of course there are steps before that. There are many laws I don't like and since they are not enforced we just live without respecting them