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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] ParabolicMotion@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lucky you. They deemed you physically unscathed enough to serve.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Like they do more than 90% of males here. ~7% go to civil service.

"Lucky you". You Americans and your military fetishes. Exactly what's the problem here, preventing you from discerning your police from your military or even really knowing the difference.

[–] ParabolicMotion@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, so you aren’t even American? You don’t live in America. So what is your problem with police in Texas? This post specifically addresses police in Texas and the new vehicles they received.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"You're not even American, and think you have the right to laugh at the American military-industrial complex?!"

What's wrong with an overmilitarised and undereducated police force...?

What's wrong with people genuinely not being able to name the difference in roles between the military and the police?

We can figure this out together, I'm sure.

[–] ParabolicMotion@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think you should live in America before you make that judgement. You’re only seeing one side of the story in this part of Lemmy. Usually, on the internet, you’re usually only seeing one side of the story, and it’s the side that wants to profit from suing police.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, I really don't.

What "other side" are you talking about?

What is the "story" here even?

That America has a military-industrial complex which results in undereducated police officers with military gear and little to no understanding of the rights they say they're protecting?

No, I really don't nees to live in the US to judge that, just like neither of us needs to live in Gaza to know whether there's a genocide going on there or whether or not genocide is moral. (Hint: It's not..)