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[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Abrahamic religions make a lot more sense if God isn't omniscient and he's using our reality to understand suffering in a way that an all-powerful being can't

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

That or he's just a jackass that got bored and quit.

[–] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Well no, they don't, because they believe in an all-powerful God explicitly.

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They said if that were the case, not that people believed it.

I.e.: their beliefs overall would be more credible if we assume they're wrong about this part.

Not personally agreeing or disagreeing.

[–] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No, I got that. There's just no way to have this definition of God within the Abrahamic context. Literally, God said to Abraham, "I am the one true God, and I can do anything. Including making your barren wife bear a child. And now you all need to cut off your foreskin to show that you believe me. And that will be our covenant."

This why these religions are so prone to fascism and general hate. Anyone who isn't with our god is against us.

ETA: And by "our god" in the last sentence, I mean the very specific definition these very specific groups have decided to use for ole foreskin-wanting dude.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

you're having a hard time with an if statement

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It varies wildly depending on the author. Sometimes he controls all of reality and other times he doesn't even know what's happening in the next town over.

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Honestly it seems like thats what they were getting at in the very old texts, but then it gets lost in translation on purpose. imo. into this all powerful all knowing being for power or greed . if you look into the older occult side like Christian mysticism, the kabbala, and other major religious mystic writings is what I mean

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This is kind of the plot of The Maze Runner

[–] Psych@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is ? Are you talking about the books or something ? Do the movies and books have different stories ?

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

The 2nd book specifically. I think the movies may have a different plot, but I've never seen them.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

He's a very small-scale god, like what you'd expect from desert nomads thousands of years ago.