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I have no stake in this argument (centralization on both lemmy.ml and lemmy.world is detrimental in my opinion), but I found it kind of ironic.

Not sure if this is the best place to post it, but didn't know of any "neutral" fediverse communities, so I guess this one works.

Edit: the thread itself: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

Some examples of removals/bans: https://reddthat.com/post/20718767/11186767

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[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's fine!

I really see where they come from, and why they prefer a strong moderation on this kind of topics. I guess it starts to get blurry once you have to define what is misinformation. Historical accuracy is hard to achieve (this is why I still go to /r/AskHistorians, and I linked a few threads in the other comments).

I saw some time ago a graph showing how the perception of the USSR changed a lot in Europe during the Cold War compared to just after WW2.

The following statements might be all true at the same time

  • USSR committed imperialist massacres
  • USA committed imperialist massacres
  • most of the Western European nations committed imperialist massacres

Sometimes I'm wondering if those three statements can be compiled in a single comment and not instantly start a comment war with everyone trying to push their own agenda, and mods having to interfere following their own views.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Mao and Stalin did nothing wrong and if they did, the undesirables deserved it.

The West is a disgusting generacy oppressing the working people"

Banged out a tankie from while enjoying his soy latte in Brooklyn coffee shop. Dreaming to escaping to the socialist Paradise and leaving the shit hole behind.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Banged out a ~~tankie~~Kremlin shill from while enjoying his ~~soy latte~~ borscht in ~~Brooklyn coffee shop~~ St Petersburg.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 8 points 5 months ago

nb4 someone says "both sides"

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

The following statements might be all true at the same time

  • USSR committed imperialist massacres
  • USA committed imperialist massacres
  • most of the Western European nations committed imperialist massacres

No one's refuting that 'both sides' logic. But if

  • I took a beer from the 2-4 in your garage
  • Pierre took a beer from the 2-4 in your garage
  • Ivan took 22 beers from the 2-4 in your garage

Then we're all bad house guests, but Ivan's a complete asshole.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Worth thinking about what all these have in common, no? (Hint: they are all nation states).

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Nahh fuck you... My nation state is better and strong! It will kick your nation state's ass!

My nation state never did nothing mate!!!