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Where do you think pizza comes from?
Like all things, we have seized it and made it our own. Like how getting Chinese food in an American restaurant only vaguely resembles Chinese cuisine. ๐ช
Sure, but the Americanized versions of Italian, German, or Chinese foods were made by immigrants adapting their traditional recipes with ingredients they had on hand.
Just like how italian, German, and Chinese foods came about! America is just more recent and we tend to keep the labels of the influences ao it is more obvious.
Well, that and adjusting to suit mainstream tastes. Like how garlic bread is largely a Western introduction in Korea, but is preferred sweet there instead of savory.
Development of cuisine is a fascinating thing!
I can't speak for German or Chinese food, but having been to Italy, a good NYC slice beats anything the Italians have to offer.
Hard disagree there. I've visited both and tried both. NYC pizza is disappointingly average.
To be fair Chinese food in Europe doesn't have much to do with actual Chinese food either
Dude I had sweet and sour chicken at a Chinese food joint in a mall in chemnitz Germany, it was a friggin schnitzel. Just with sweet sour sauce. And instead of potatoes it was a ball of rice lol. I found the picture I took here ๐คฃ:
If I wasn't paying attention, looks like katsu curry until I notice the sauce looks like pure sugar. But ya nowadays everyone's got their schnitzel variant ๐
Depends on the restaurant, but in general - yes, proper Chinese is rare.
I mean, tomatoes are a fruit native to the Americas, so even though pizza was invented in Italy, its invention is still tied to the America side of the Atlantic in some ways. Pizza has a very interesting past!
Pizza existed before they had tomatoes tho
I would argue that the modern understanding of pizza in Italy and across the globe is one that includes tomatoes. Things prior to that called pizza would likely not pass as pizza today. And it's pretty accepted that pizza and tomatoes are very linked. Imo you're being pedantic.
Guess you never heard of pizza bianca then. Please try not to formulate grand theories before knowing just a sliver of the involved facts, thank you.
Arguing that the history of pizza is not deeply intertwined with tomatoes is a pretty weird hill to die on
Also, we Costco-sized it. That is a single slice of pizza in that photo.
It's Chinese inspired American food.
To be fair, most of what I've seen of Chinese cuisine looks like dog yack, so I think we got the better end of the deal.
Real, eaten-in-China Chinese food is amazing. Highly regional, though, so you may love one region's cuisine and not another's. Some of the best food on earth for sure, though.
Fun fact, in many places, soft-serve ice cream is known as "Italian ice cream".
What we are seeing here is a slightly botched traditional Italian lunch.
In very few places ftfy
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Italian pizza is really different than American.
Yes, usually it's a whole pizza, not one tenth
Pizza al taglio?
Va bene per i bambini
You clearly have never had Italian pizza. Not even close.
Pizza is American unless you want to claim every flatbread is a pizza.