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No surprises here. Just like the lockdown on iPhone screen and part replacements, Macbooks suffer from the same Apple's anti-repair and anti-consumer bullshit. Battery glued, ssd soldered in and can't even swap parts with other official parts. 6000$ laptop and you don't even own it.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, you're getting downvoted because you can buy non-apple laptops with quality screens. Also, you could just plug in a cheap monitor that is properly calibrated, or buy a nicer color correct monitor. Apple doesn't have monopoly on color.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MacOS does know how to handle colours, I'll give 'em that.

I just have no idea if Windows does it better, worse, or the same.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Windows is not a color-managed OS. It only manages a few applications, like "Photos". The rest of color-management is done by separate applications, which is far from ideal.

Linux had a chance to match macOS with Wayland, but blew it by not taking in constructive criticism and letting their egos dictate the features.

Edit: If you're going for a Windows laptop, just don't get a laptop with a "wide-gamut" display. Go for a good sRGB screen and your life will be easier.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It just blows that everything Apple sells can only barely be repaired or upgraded, if at all.

I can replace pretty much any part of my current laptop fairly easily, and I'd love to have something like that again.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't use Apple products, simply because of their crappy ethics and questionable product design. But that means I suffer in my day-to-day work-life thing. That, and I need a good GPU for rendering.

Still, I'd 'hackintosh' everything and anything just because of color-management. :'(

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was it Framework who sells nicely repairable devices? Maybe I'll see if they have reasonably good screens, and use Adobe through a Windows VM. I'd prefer that over bare metal anyway.

I would hope that if I ever need a truly high end display, it's going to be an employer who pays for it. One can hope.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Frameworks are very nice, but I'm waiting for them to crystalize a bit.

I would hope that if I ever need a truly high end display, it’s going to be an employer who pays for it. One can hope.

That still is a problem on both Windows and Linux. No matter what gamut your screen is, if the OS just sends nonsense to it, it's just a colorful bestbuy "TV".

While Adobe products use their own color-management, you'll meet many problems in your day creative project management. And guess what, it's always your fault!

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is false, it looks like you haven't read or understood my comment.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry. You're right. I lied. It's impossible to buy color calibrated monitors. https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-PD2500Q-2560x1440-Monitor-Calibrated/dp/B0749RC47S/ And it's impossible to calibrate the color of any other monitors. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=color+calibration&crid=1DCVNFPWWTQR2&sprefix=color+calibrat%2Caps%2C132&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_14

Apple does have a monoply on color. Can't wait to get their VR headset so I can experience the true color of reality. You've really opened my eyes to the false color life I was living.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My god, if you're that clueless, just shut the fuck up.

The person is asking what laptops have "good screens" whatever that means, and you're offering an external monitor?

Do you understand what color-management is, and that calibration is means jack shit if the OS doesn't properly manage color?

"monopoly on color". Christ almighty, I'd be embarrassed to spew such nonsense, even anonymously.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't find a chart for this year, but here is one for 2020... https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Best-Notebooks-with-the-Best-Displays.120541.0.html

Spoiler, MacBooks don't even make the top 10. As for my "apple doesn't have a monoply on color" comments. You're the one insinuating that it's impossible to get good color on any other platform, I just digested your meaning a bit. And yes, it is dumb, almost as dumb as asking why you are getting downvoted for repeating fanboi dribble based on Apple marketing department talking points.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Lmao. It seems like you're just ignoring the part you don't understand lol. As I said. A clueless parrot.