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The Adblockalypse is coming (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by Spudwart@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[-] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 149 points 10 months ago

Google can do whatever bullshit they want, I am still not letting go of adblock

I won't use sites with WEI or adblock blockers

I won't use chromium

You can lead the sheep to the spyware but you can't force them to open it

[-] lickmysword@sh.itjust.works 55 points 10 months ago

They can pry adblockers from our cold dead hands. Then other people will make new ones.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 10 months ago

They may kill this iteration of ad blockers. But there will always be another and another. Google has a lot of smart people working for them. There are also a lot of smart people in the FOSS community that will eventually find a way around it.

At the end of the day there will still be people recording songs by holding two boom boxes together.

[-] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Make software that runs on your computer that uses machine learning to detect ads on you screen and put kitties and puppy pictures over them. Browser and sites couldn't do shit about it unless they start acting like anticheats scanning your computer for that software etc..

[-] Domriso@kbin.social 43 points 10 months ago

Hm, can we make an anti-WEI movement? Have a bunch of websites block browsers using WEI, to force it away?

I know that won't actually work, but a man can dream...

[-] millionsofplayers@lemmy.one 9 points 10 months ago

and then 75% of people can't use your website and then people stop using it? That wouldn't work

[-] Domriso@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

I mean, yeah, that's why I said it wouldn't work. Maybe if there was a website that was big enough that it would drive people to use non-WEI browsers if they couldn't access it, but any website big enough to do that would also want WEI for ad venue.

[-] philomory@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The only big website that could even come close to doing this (they won’t, and if they did it wouldn’t work, but they’re big enough that the attempt would at least be noticed) is Wikipedia.

A slightly more “productive” (sort of) avenue of approach would be another large corporation for whom Google is a competitor, and who themselves doesn’t rely (as much) on advertising, interfering with WEI for their own self-interested reasons. Apple is the most likely candidate here, although again, I don’t think that’s likely to happen.

[-] grue@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Donate to orgs like the EFF, Mozilla, and the FSF. Lobby your congressperson, your senators, and Biden to make the FTC to start doing its goddamn job again and enforce antitrust law.

The only real solution to this creeping megalomaniacal monopolistic behavior is legislative.

[-] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

The real hope is the EU doing the right thing again and curb stomping the fuck out of google and hopefully the results spread across the world.

[-] TheObserver@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Sure hope you're only using firefox since all the other browsers are chromium 🤣

[-] Maxy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 10 months ago

Except safari of course (almost 20% market share).

Also, there are plenty of other browsers using Mozilla’s gecko engine. A quote from Wikipedia: “ Other web browsers using Gecko include GNU IceCat, Waterfox, K-Meleon, Lunascape, Portable Firefox, Conkeror, Classilla, TenFourFox.” (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_(software))

[-] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

alot of browsers also use safari webkit (e.g. epiphany)

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, certainly, but all of these, if they want to sync their data, or use a own selfhosted server or have to use those of Mozilla with an account, giving with it datas to Alphabet (Google) and googleanalytics. Sync is essential if you use the browser in several PC, PC and Mobile or simply as backup if the PC fails or you buy a new one and don't want to lose your bookmarks, passwords and other data. Forks are a lot out there, also very nice ones, but most of these lacks the basic infrastructure, depending on a lot of third party services. A browser isn't only an app to surf the web, it's a continuos work, maintance, servers and most important, a good and active community. How many forks offer all this? There are almost 100 different browsers out there and other 70 which had said Game over for us, from people which thought "Nice, its easy to fork this engine making it to my like and gain a lot of customers", nice short dream with a product oversaturated in the market.