If there was an easy way to use rust or something on webassemly and use that instead of JS. I'd be so happy, but I can't find how to do it without npm.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

We use this framework at work: https://leptos.dev

[–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's in alpha, but there is a Kotlin to wasm compiler in the works.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Does WASM do DOM manipulation nowadays?

[–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't look like it, unfortunately. But it's planned. Kotlin can also compile to JavaScript with DOM manipulation. I've not tried either scenario, myself.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago

Kotlin -> JavaScript would work. I assume there must be a Python version of that as well.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can't wait for the day I can use something like Kotlin to write Frontend code. Maybe there'll be something like vue or react build on it

[–] rooroo@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You could use Java ages ago and it was, very rightly so, abandoned.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You meanbJavaFX? Yeah the web version of it never was great

[–] rooroo@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even worse, I’m old enough to have used GWT at some point.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago

shudder

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just use javascript and don’t try to add {} to [].

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago

Well, you never try to.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 4 months ago

You can use WebAssembly today, but you still need some JS interop for a bunch of browser features (like DOM manipulation). Your core logic can be in WebAssembly though. C# has Blazor, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's some Rust WebAssembly projects. I seem to recall that there's a reimplementation of Flash player that's built in Rust and compiles to WebAssembly.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Rust would probably be the wrong tool here. This is scripting, so pointers like Rust is built around aren't really meaningful. Kotlin or Python or something are more on the ticket.

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Websites have grown beyond mere scripting.
Rust is about more than just nicer pointers, it has a very expressive type system that enables correctness rarely seen outside FP.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago

Websites have grown beyond mere scripting.

Parts of them, yeah. WASM in Rust makes total sense.

Rust is about more than just nicer pointers, it has a very expressive type system that enables correctness rarely seen outside FP.

If you say so. I'd suggest Haskell, but it doesn't work very naturally with interactivity, either user or intersystem.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, ideally TypeScript would be natively supported. Or maybe just Python, which is sort-of strictly typed, and definitely won't do "wat". Alas, it's not the world we live in, and browsers take JavaScript.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 4 months ago

Python supports type hints, but you need to use a type checker like Pyre or Pyright to actually check them. Python itself doesn't do anything with the type hints.