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[–] eclipse@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

IMO they shouldn't have allowed ULA as part of the standard. There's no good reason for it.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I use ULA prefixes to ensure the management interfaces of my devices don’t leak via public routes.

It’s one of the unique parts of the standard IPv6 stack not back ported to IPv4, that an interface on any host can be configured with multiple addresses. It permits functional isolation with the default routing logic.

IPv6 is far from perfect, but the majority of the arguments I’ve seen against deploying it are a mixture of laziness, wilful ignorance, and terminal incuriosity.

[–] eclipse@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I might be misunderstanding. It's definitely possible to have as many IPv4 aliases on an interface as you want with whatever routing preferences you want. Can you clarify?

I agree with your stance on deployment.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Configuring multiple v4 addresses on an interface is a kludge, typically only used on hosts which apply inter-network routing logic. It’s an explicit, primary function of the standard v6 specifications.

With v4, you would use either RFC1918 and NAT, or plumb a public address to the host.

With v6 you should use a ULA and an address with a public prefix, and selectively open ports/services to on appropriate address.

An example is the file sharing and administration daemons on my NAS are only bound to its ULA. I don’t need to worry whether it will accidentally be exposed publicly through fat fingering my firewall config, because it will never route beyond my gateway.

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When you want IPv6 but your ISP says “no”

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there is: not breaking all your internal traffic when the wan link goes down and you lose your prefix.

[–] eclipse@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I can potentially see that scenario if your transit provider is giving you a dynamic prefix but I've never seen that in practice. The address space is so enormous there is no reason to.

Otherwise with either of RADVD or DHCPv6 the local routers should still be able to handle the traffic.

My home internal network (v6, SLAAC) with all publicly routeable addresses doesn't break if I unplug my modem.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago

IIRC, there are some sloppy ISPs who are needlessly handing out prefixes dynamically. ISPs seem to be doing everything they can to fuck this up, and it seems more incompetence than malice. They are hurting themselves with this more than anybody else.