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it's also completely useless, and even it's hyped up by the same people who sticked around crypto when it was a thing
It's not completely useless, it just not the silver fucking bullet that the cryptobros promised it was. It can do a lot of cool shit, but we keep trying to make it do things it's really not equipped to do.
They're talking about "AI", not crypto, the crypto bros part of their comment is about it being the same people that jumped on the crypto wagon and defend the energy waste.
I was using cryptobros as a proxy for the people that hyped AI. I feel like that venn diagram is a circle.
Fair enough and I agree
Well as long as you feel it is true.
And if I use "I feel" instead of a more concrete assertion, it's clear from context that I don't have any data to back that up off hand and am implicitly making a wider assertion that the people they hyped crypto are the same or akin to the people who are hyping AI.
Feel free to disprove me.
Not on me to disprove your, cough.... argument...cough.
Learn how standards of evidence work. "I feel" you got some reading to do.
Wasn't an argument. It was an anecdote. I feel there is insubstantial difference in character and behavior between crypto bros and ai hype people. Given that we are discussing large populations, overlap will occur. It has been my experience that they are generally the same people.
Thus "I feel" instead of some kind of demographic analysis. If you are offended by this, maybe don't associate with willfully uninformed grifters and their victims.
Well as long as you feel something it just be true. Especially when it involves humans. It's a lot easier to make up universal laws of ideas.
Yup. I'm ok with having a negative, poorly backed opinion of grifters who's lies fall in to my area of professional expertise. And if one of those grifters get butthurt about it, all the better. If they didn't want to be offended by people not liking their bullshit, they shouldn't be active detriments to society at large.
We don't do the right thing for other people we do it for ourselves
Sure. And the right thing is not tolerating grifters.
Yes grifters who you have blind faith exist
You imply I am a grifter? Quite the stretch. I'm curious how you got there. A vague reference to my profession brands me as such?
I did no such thing. I am taking issue with your ridiculous strawman you "feel" exists.
Ok fair, that misinterpretation is on me.
I feel like both of us have lost our minds with what a dumb thread this is.
I'm allowed to strongly associate two groups of people who I've found to have similar patterns of behavior. You're allowed to dislike me for having an opinion you dislike.
Or you're a real AI whom I've offended and for which I apologize. That'd be a fun end to this nonsense.
Not about an opinion I don't like. You built a strawman and I called you out on it.
Is it just remotely possible that people could think of cryptocurrency as a scam/tool for criminals and at the same time be into automation tech? Well, no not in your worldview. It is a "circle" in venn diagram form.
Into automation ---> into crypto --> techbro (whatever the fuck that means)
And of course it's circular. If you are a "techbro" it means you are into crypto and into automation.
Don't think this is a valid inference structure? Well you made it. And ironically in a thread calling out other people for not being rational.
Anyway I wouldn't worry, not like you are going to learn from this. You will just slap some label on me like "techbro" assume I have whatever strawman opinions you want me to have and move on to be "right" somewhere else. Heaven fucking forbid people don't fit in some neat little box. Sorry, venn circle.
I love this mindset. It's so regressive, it's like watching old people form
for the "value" it provides (automated spam, new wave of deepfakes and tailor made propaganda, facilitating layoffs with genai as a failed replacement, and most importantly of all hyping openai stock) any amount of resources spent is a massive waste
Eh. I've built multiple apps in very short succession thanks to GPT. I don't really care if people think it's useful or not, I know it is.
Osrs already has free to play no?
It's an old name I had from Reddit :p. I kept it because some people recognized it
your post-gpt output seems to consist mostly of runescape bots?
While I appreciate how much you must have looked into my profile to find that, I was actually referring to the startup I worked at in South Korea for half a year. The impact I landed there paved the way for me to get my current job at Meta.
(RuneScape bots are something I write on the weekend to wind down from work)
Get better at profile stocking or maybe get chatgpt to do it for you haha
Who exactly is replenishing their storefront shelves in this conversation? And with profiles?
You should probably start asking ChatGPT to proofread your comments, too.
Nah the priority is figuring out how to get it to block people.
I was commenting more regarding your misuse of the word stocking in place of stalking, instead of about AI, but ya know... I pointed you in the right direction, and you still missed it, and that says enough.
You're being made obsolete by your own tool and you don't even realize it.
It's so far off being able to make software, it's smart but will never be that smart... Well if it does we're all done for.
It's a fantastic tool for getting a layout for your code however.
How far off is it from being able to make code well enough that your immediate manager, with basic coding skills, can just do it? Because that's going to happen to a lot of people and soon.
So there's two arguments happening here; one that ChatGPT is so good that it'll replace us, and one that it's terrible and has no usecase. The truth is somewhere in the middle (but I do look forwards to the day it's the latter)
I'm not saying that it's good enough to do that now.
But another thing to consider as well, what's the point in this whole society thing if we're not working towards... Not forcing future generations to work.
We already know there isn't going to be enough work for everyone, the problem isn't AI it's politics.
Considering I already make tools for people to automate parts of their jobs, and they still struggle. I am not worried at all about that.
The only developers made obsolete by IDEs coming around were those who continued to code in
edMate you're babbling like an old man too. Spam has been automated for a long time. Deepfakes are indeed a problem I agree, but again Photoshop has existed for a long time. Tailor made propaganda has existed as long as civilization has existed. Companies in tech space hand their staff layoffs and hiring in cycles, AI was just the latest excuse. And OpenAI isn't even publicly traded.
Stop talking shit and touch grass.