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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“Virtue-signal about genocide?” How is opposing genocide virtue-signaling?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Are you planning on voting for the candidate who is going to be the lesser evil and minimize the harm, or are you going throw it away on a protest vote/not vote at all?

Because if you're doing the latter, you're not opposing genocide, you're abdicating your opposition by not opposing the person who wants to finish the job. Not voting against trump on the general election while professing* to oppose genocide is virtue signalling because you're explicitly and intentionally not doing the one thing that will have the most effect on the genocide.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m voting for Biden, but I’m not gonna justify a genocide to shame others to do the same. There are many reasons to give to vote for Biden, (rejoining the climate agreement, abortion rights), but apologizing for a genocide isn’t one of them.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And asking people to vote for Biden when they profess to care about genocide is not justifying genocide. Especially when they say they won't vote or are voting 3rd party as a protest vote or something to teach them a lesson.

I'm sorry you're upset about me labelling that behavior as virtue signalling, but that's what it is. You may not want to shame others for behaviors that harm the goal, but I absolutely will.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The “vote blue no matter who” crowd is actually hurting Biden, not helping. By dismissing the complaints of constituents, it places their interests in the background. It can be argued, that with the genocide occurring, it actually pushes people to not vote, or vote third party.

A campaign run on holding voters hostage doesn’t work, because it isn’t really a campaign at all; it is a campaign against your opponent rather than for your candidate.

The Democratic Party turning their backs on a huge portion of their voting populace isn’t some sort of sacrifice necessary to win the election, it is the shovel the Democratic Party is using to dig its own grave — if not this year, then in the years to come. Ignoring and stifling the voices of the people you’ve hurt, plugging your ears when they ask for accountability and telling them to take what they are given is a surefire way to cement their contempt for you, not to get them to vote for you. Strong-arming them into voting for you doesn’t work because minorities have already lost the election, and they know it. They lost the moment an establishment Democrat took the primaries again. They lose no matter what color the White House turns in January. source

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When your source is an op-ed piece, you don’t have a source. You have an opinion that isn’t even originally yours to begin with.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not healthy to be this angry so much. Maybe a dog can help.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You lose. Thanks for playing though.

(If anyone wants to know how to tell when a propagandist is out of gas and has no argument left, it’s shit like this:

They resort to their hexbear origins and post memes.)

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I lost when I replied to your comment. It’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make for the greater good, so others don’t have to endure this inanity.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When I woke up this morning my girlfriend asked me, 'Did you sleep good?' I said 'No, I made a few mistakes.'

Steven Wright

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Probably the most astute thing you’re ever going to say here… and you didn’t even say it.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Because I typed it.