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This is opinion. So read it as such. But consider it please.

Obviously if you read this based on the title. I assume you oppose the Tories.

But if you are wondering why labour are so keen to manage expectations. There is a reason.

Campaign funding wise the Tories are estimated to be 19m ahead of labour. But honestly at the moment they are not spending a huge amount more.

We know the Tories are skilled at election manipulation. So there is genuine fear that the Tories plan to launch a campaign within the last few days.

I.E. when there is less time and funding to ensure fact checking is effective.

They know Starmer is more publicity aware then Corbyn was. He is able to play it in a way that dose not scare traditional Conservative voters.

They also know thanks to Boris, that the courts are unable to punish them for outright lies during any political campaign. And that Rishi is prepared to lie about and accuse civil servants of lying when challenged.

As huge as polling is against the Tories. All it would take is some dramatic claim against the party or Starmer. To convince Tory traditional voters to bite their tongue and vote Tory. While convincing left wing voters not to vote or to switch to 3rd party in seats where labour are the 1st or 2nd party.

The fact we know they have a huge amount of money unspent. Makes it clear they plan to launch something nearer the end of the election. And the only advantage of leaving it so late. Is it will limit the ability of the party to effectively react. Or fact checkers to be able to prove and distribute evidence of lies.

Please be prepared for this.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That is horrible binary thinking. There is a world of action between voting for liberals (unscratched fascists) and assassination (which if your government is run by fascists, does not, in fact, make you the greater evil)

Why are you libs always like this? Oh if you kill the evil people then you're just as bad as them!

Okay have fun with that pacifism fetish when it leads you in front of a firing squad (which is the ultimate destination of the trajectory both our countries are on)

Read This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

yeah you are talking about murdering politicians. this conversation is over.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A) No he isn't, you made that up to have an excuse to retreat from the argument you're losing

B) OH GOD NOO NOT THE GENOCIDAL POLITICANS NOOO

Good German.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

OH GOD NOO NOT THE GENOCIDAL POLITICANS NOOO

chefs-kiss

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And you are talking about voting for the people facilitating this: https://hexbear.net/post/2834712 CW SA And basically the most horrifying shit you've ever seen.

But sure take the moral high ground you freak.

Also, for the record I never stated support for political assassination. That is a strawman you made up to justify voting for these fucking monsters.

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Is it really murder if they deserve it? Think for a moment if Hitler deserved it before he started enacting genocidal bullshit. Not even then? Was the line at the point where he had thugs in the street or only after he attained state power? There is a line somewhere, and I am curious as to where you think that line is. Because at a certain point a person is an existential threat to the marginalized and they must go away, as expediently as possible.