this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2024
682 points (96.5% liked)

Technology

60075 readers
3572 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ptz@dubvee.org 253 points 6 months ago (6 children)

If only we had the technology to open doors without power. One day, perhaps.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 124 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But how do you integrate a subscription fee into analog doors? You can‘t enshitify that!!

[–] Toes@ani.social 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh that's easy, just make it a one time release switch. You gotta replace the ~~door~~ battery after using it.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Door opener fluid. It's a canister of fluid that you have to pump into the door to open it in an emergency. Then you get a replacement canister from the dealer for $150. I recently found out that that's what passes for a "spare tire" anymore.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 months ago

They do they both for cost and for weight savings to try and hit CAFE standard while only selling oversized CUVs.

Make small cars.

We want them, they’re fun and better for everyone.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

An explosive hatch! Or ejection seat! Love it

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The fact a car was approved that doesn't have a manual way to open doors from inside and outside and start it is ludicrous. That's basic-ass level shit. NHTSA is asleep at the wheel.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 22 points 6 months ago

Other comment says there is a way from inside, just not outside (which doesn't help with a young kid/toddler/baby is the inside passenger of course).

Either way, glad this is "only" a huge embarrassment, and not a dead kid.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Or the foresight to have a small backup battery unit used exclusively for emergencies like say when the battery goes out or when someone reverses their car into a lake. The fact these are such death traps shows just how bad the US is when it comes to giving a flying fuck about people over money.

And all the while Elon is touted as some kind of super Lex Lutherian genius.

Honestly if I wrote a fictional book with some of the shit he's done and how the world looks at him publishers would throw it back in my face as being the most unbelievable POS they've read in the past 20 years.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago (3 children)

have a small backup battery

As far as I understand, that 12V battery was that backup...

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nope it's a separate battery used like in a normal car to power the low voltage stuff so you don't have to use high grade power lines to run the windows and doors

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

During the pandemic my car sat in the garage until the battery died. After 7 hours of charging it, turned on the car and found the hybrid battery was almost full.

I get why the high and low voltage systems are separate, but damn that was one of those "Really!?" moments...

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

It's much much much cheaper to use the same 12V systems that other cars use.

Kia/hyundai solved this by having a disconnect on their (li-ion) 12V battery. When the voltage gets low it completely isolates the battery. There is a button inside the car that reconnects it right before starting the car.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I should have said a small battery backup done properly knowing full well the abysmal QA of that company.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Oh, well, then, ...

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I still dont like something that is electric powered making it so you cant get through a door. If there is a short, the battery dies (which it will someday) or generally bad parts could potentially lead to a preventable death. Cars were made so keys (or key like) can open the door no matter what. And especially in the heat everyone is going through in the US.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

Ya I hear you. I don’t even like driving modern cars because they are all electrical and the pedals feel like video game controls. But nothing in the Tesla is built well. I fully believe it possible to build a full proof battery backup and not just hook up a random 12v that probably suffers from the same abysmal QA as the rest of the car.

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There is a manual door release that works without power, but only from the inside. She had just loaded the child in their car seat, shut the door then went to the driver door to get in and couldn’t open it.

The doors are on the 12V side of the system, you can use jumper cables to connect an external battery from another vehicle (including ICE vehicles) to power the door under normal circumstances. But with a kid trapped in the car in AZ, I wouldn’t wait for that either.

It a pretty rare combinations of circumstances, but there’s something to be said for manual keys still used on other vehicles with keyless entry.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

How would you connect the battery with jumper cables if you're locked out?

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

There’s a manual release that can be used to open the hood from the outside even if the vehicle has no power.

It’s a safety feature for first responders, as also under the hood is a loop of wire that can be cut to permanently disable the high voltage curcuts prior cutting open the car with saws.

[–] SynAcker@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Or charge/jump the 12V battery without having to remove the body panels.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Until then we've included a complimentary hammer with each Tesla.