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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I’m hoping that it’s just the gen z/alpha version of an edgy atheist phase that they outgrow. For what it’s worth she also says a lot of kids are way more chill about LGBT students, including being respectful of pronouns.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My experience with teenage atheists is that they usually remain atheists into adulthood.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They (hopefully) outgrow the edgy part, though, was my point.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think you might have picked the wrong topic, then. Atheism tends to be sincere and not just edgy.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm an atheist and that's why I specified the edgy part.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But if they are edgy misogynists in their teens and then they outgrow the edgy part...

... Then we'll still have a bunch of misogynists on our hand, but now their beliefs are sincere rather than performative.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

It was an internet comment, not a thesis.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Really hard to take a niche religious belief seriously without a large dedicated community of fellow practitioners.

Like, if you're not regularly going to a church, there's no peer network or social reproduction. You might become "spiritual", but it's going to be some religion you invented in your own head that's divorced from any other formal setting. As likely as a non-athletic teenager suddenly becoming a baseball professional.

Organized religion is as much about the organization as the religion.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

At least for atheism there's a non-edgy, civilized version. For whatever this is, I don't think you can make it more palatable without just throwing out the entire mindset

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Us former edgy atheists didn't go back to church (mostly)

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago

It’s probably not an uncommon thing for us adult atheists to have been curious children and edgy teenagers.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah but reminds me of 21 jump street (film). Asshole bullies will just use "why you hate my gay friend?" as the new excuse to pick a fight.