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[–] probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Piracy isn't stealing if buying isn't owning.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So it's okay to keep a rental car because you don't own it and it's therefore not stealing?

[–] MorrisonMotel6@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's ok to make a 1:1 copy of the rental car without depriving the company of the car in any way

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So a writer spends a year of his life writing a book with the idea that he can sell copies for $15 each so that, if he sells enough copies, he can make that year's time worthwhile. But you think it's okay to just make a copy for free since he still has his original?

[–] MorrisonMotel6@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. I was never going to buy it anyway. He didn't lose anything. At least this way, his art is consumed and discussed, potentially generating a sale. BTW, you are absolutely wasting your time here with me. I obviously have a very different perspective on this than you do. You'll have to either accept that, or become increasingly frustrated that your arguments fall flat with me

Edited because I realized I wasn't in the piracy community

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least now we've gotten to the common understanding that it is theft, but you just don't care. I personally think copyright laws have been good for our society because they've allowed people to live off of creating art. You obviously have a different view.

I'm not at all frustrated by the conversation - it's like discussing car registration or driver's licenses with a SovCit. In fact, it's pretty much exactly like that. It's interesting for me to see how you rationalize your view, but I don't expect you to change your mind.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sure it is. You're taking something that isn't yours without paying for it.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not taking anything. Theft implies loss.

[–] MorrisonMotel6@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Theft DEMANDS loss

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The ordinary rules don't apply to corporations, and we're suckers if we play by ordinary rules.

That's why 'shoplifting' from Kroger, 'robbing' a Bank of America branch, 'stealing' cable TV from Xfinity, or 'pirating' movies or music from Columbia or Universal is not morally wrong. Quite the opposite, it's the right thing to do.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Will that's complete bullshit. What ridiculous rationalization. If you don't like those places, don't do business with them. If enough people don't do business with them, they'll go away.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Except thats not how our system works. When they fail they get bailouts at our expense.