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People love to call veganism ‘privileged,’ while conveniently ignoring the fact that the only reason animal products are even close to being accessible for the average consumer is because they’re factory farmed, slaughtered and packed by grossly underpaid labourers working in dangerous conditions, and then massively subsidised by all of our taxes.

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[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Could you be more explicit? Like what are the foods and clothing etc suggested by militant vegans that are luxury goods?

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

When you're in desperate levels of food scarcity, you don't have room to be picky. When you are relying on borrowed/stolen/passed down or thrifted clothing, you're going to wear what you can get.

Veganism is an ethical choice, but it's a choice some people aren't in a position to make.

That's what makes it a privilege.

[-] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

That’s what makes it a privilege.

Completely wrong. You can still be vegan even if you aren't able to live without being forced to use animal products. The literal definition of veganism includes "as far as is possible and practicable" for reason. Please make sure you read the sidebar as that distinction is very important. It allows all the things that you've outlined in your comment as acceptable under the definition of veganism.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Maybe in the context of this instance, sure, that caveat is applicable. Outside of this place, out in the real world, it isn't.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

I don't eat this stuff, but I assume they mean vegan cheese, tofu, tempeh, store bought seitan sausages/deli meats, fancy ice cream, almond milk, and whatever weird stuff I see in some rich comrade fridges

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Tofu and tempeh are cheap, the rest are junk foods largely marketed towards lactose intolerant people and carnists with a guilty conscience.

Standard plant based food is like bean or lentil stew. Not hotdogs except molecular gastronomy.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

tofu and tempeh are cheap

Dunno. Also packaging isn't compostable.

I usually make lentil burgers or carrot dogs or seitan if I want to appease stubborn omnivores

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