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Nvidia is being a bubble stock again (pivot-to-ai.com)

submitted 4 months ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think this "AI" (a marketing term) bubble will flop per the article we linked in the post: this is a bubble fueled entirely by investors, mostly VC, throwing money into a fire of unprofitable businesses selling services at a loss that don't actually work.

I spoke to a pile of AI industry peons who think the VCs will get sick of setting money on fire by the end of this year. I woulda given it two years myself - there are hundreds of billions of dollars desperate for a home - but the number I was consistently hearing in March was "three quarters".

Maybe the Nvidia price will weather it. It took a hit when crypto crashed, though not a huge one.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago

The next AI winter can't come too soon. They're spinning up coal-fired power plants to supply the energy required to build these LLMs.

[+] Buffalox@lemmy.world -6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The link you provide above stalls, so IDK what that is about.
I don't agree that AI is just a marketing term, although it probably is used in that way by many, it is not when it comes to Nvidia, who has the by far most popular hardware to drive AI software. And Nvidia is already making a lot of money on selling hardware for AI, and even lower tier suppliers claim the demand is crazy for AI hardware.

VCs will get sick of setting money

Do you mean venture capitalists? It's very annoying to have to guess the meaning of a 2 letter acronym. For Christ sake how many meaning do you think VC has?
What special contact do industry peons have with venture capitalists? That doesn't make any sense. Also I don't believe this is driven by venture capitalists at all.

All the biggest companies like Microsoft, Google, Facebook etc are making huge investments in their own implementations, implementations that cannot even be finished this year because of supply shortages. This is not about upstarts, but all the biggest existing companies investing huge amounts of money. Upstarts funded by Venture capitalists are not even a blip on the radar.

So saying 3 quarters is absolute bullocks, that doesn't even cover NVIDIA's back orders!

this is a bubble fueled entirely by investors,

Nope, there is actual crazy demand. But how crazy in the longer run remains to be seen.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

For Christ sake how many meaning do you think VC has?

we're talking about a frequently used initialism on this community, which you may want to read more of, or not. Did you find this post by keyword searching?

Bragging how you didn't read something is also ill-favoured here.

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago

shit, thanks to the orange site and tech hypercapitalism in general, VC in the investing sense is an incredibly commonly-used term everywhere in the industry. so between them pretending your site won’t load and flip-flopping between being a tech investing expert and someone who apparently doesn’t know fuck about shit… well, you know what I’m thinking