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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"DevOps" is a word meaning "sysadmin who can still use the command line"

[–] m@blat.at 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@dgerard @Soyweiser I thought we were SREs now. At least, the message for years was "Sysadmins are useless shit now because they aren't software engineers and hell, they don't even call themselves engineers".

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

a euphemism treadmill of "keeping shit working"

[–] m@blat.at 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

@dgerard Sometimes I feel like a hospital doctor who's worked in the clap clinic for decades and has had a series of name badges starting with "Venereal Disease" and passing through "Special Clinic" on the way to "Sexual Health Clinic". Same thankless job, just different labels.

[–] rook@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago

Same basic lessons, too… “consider the risks of giving root privileges to people you just met”, etc.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago

I don't feel like any great shakes as a sysadmin, then I encounter someone with the same job title who has clearly never used a command line before

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait there are people who cannot use the command line. No wait again, don't answer that please.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are "sysadmins" who have to be dragged kicking and screaming to using the command line.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

..what... What would they use instead?

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

having seen the horror from a distance: VNC, a fuckton of clicking, occasionally mouse and keyboard macros, possibly a networked KVM (itself not a bad idea at all for emergency access to hardware too commodity or misdesigned to have a sensible serial console, but we’re talking day to day here), and a massive chip on their shoulder about being forced off their beloved Windows Server 2003 and onto Linux

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago

I have had the actually quite heartwarming experience of us hiring on a serious NT BOFH (someone who knows precisely how to wave a hammer at NT to intimidate it) and he sees how Linux does stuff and is trepidatious but eventually delighted

then there are others

i'm at like the pointy-clicky stage with NT admin and sometimes it's just not enough, cos it's Babby's First OS but with several layers of tentacles underneath

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How do they sysadmin a server that doesn't have any display devices aside from the terminal then? Which in my experience is almost all of them?

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 4 months ago

how dare you deny them their bounty of GPUs for every server in the rack

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 4 months ago