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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If all unions were equal, then sure. But many are corrupted or are run by corrupt people.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say many of them are corrupt, I don't think that's fair. I think it's anti-union propaganda that's been spread

Some are though... And if you were to pick one example head and shoulders above all others, the police union definitely comes to mind

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m not doubting this but I wonder if there is any data to support this claim.

As it would be good ammunition to counter the anti-union rhetoric.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What would that data look like? It's not exactly a metric you can nail down

"Unions are corrupt" was definitely a message intentionally spread, I can definitely find you some examples of corporations spreading that, but that's not really data either

I guess I was wondering if there had been studies on the effectiveness of unions and looking at how many, if not negligible, have had reported cases of corruption and / or fraud.

Like I say I do believe unions do more good for workers than bad, but I also do believe that any organisation that gets to a certain size is inevitably going to be corrupt as the people that are going to be corrupt will do what is necessary to rise to the top.