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[–] match@pawb.social 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

they gave both people plenty of time, biden is supposed to be capable of challenging on his own

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. Trump indulged in a gish gallop of lies and bullshit. Biden spent too much time trying to refute some of it and in doing so wasted time which he could've used to make his own points.

There should've been moderation in place to stop this, there was none.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

which he could’ve used to make his own points.

Well I mean he did let everyone know we finally beat Medicare.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Certainly the "moderator" isn't expected to moderate the thing! /s

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 4 months ago

It wouldn't do Biden any favors to be the third most charismatic person on the debate stage.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It takes longer to debunk a lie than to say one. It's easy to spout out a hundred lies in two minutes, but it takes longer than that to debunk them without just saying "No, that's a lie" to every one, which also sounds dumb if Trump is saying that, too.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And if Biden wasn't senile he would have been able to do that.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily.

Perhaps 20 years ago Biden WorldCom acquitted himself better.

That said Trumps performance is a well established debate strategy called a gish gallop - just say dozens of lies and your opponent won't be able to rebut them all. If they try, they won't have time for their own points.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Hey if you're trying to tell me Biden is a shit candidate you'll get no argument from me. I remain furious at anyone who voted for him in the 2020 primaries.

[–] LittleBorat2@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This post truth thing is a real problem because the average person does not bother checking facts. What they notice is some division, controversy etc. not that one person is lying. Also any moron can see that Biden is old.

Someone with simple answers wins these debates. Notice how Biden says the right things all the time but he won't reach people like this.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Notice how Biden says the right things all the time

Are you talking about during the debate? "We finally beat Medicare!" ain't that.

And if you think Biden said the right things about the rail strike or protests around the weapon shipments to Israel you're living in some kind of grand delusion that excludes millions of people you're depending on to get Biden re-elected.