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[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Comfort? You're idiot won't wake up and realize the world is not that simple. You are already accepting yhe genocide of Ukrainians and lbgtq people because your ego won't accept that change only happens with work and time. You are no different than they are.

[-] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Queer person here: we've had to violently fight for our rights and were successful in the past and we will do it again if we need to, so expecting a vote for anything will fix the issues of the marginalized is very out of touch. Doing nothing but voting is 99% political apathy, and it very much feels like all this browbeating is coming from someone who only votes and mayyyyybe donates to the ACLU or planned parenthood once every couple years. Do some real work and stop spending so much of your mental energy on inconsequential (assuming you don't live in a handful of swing states) things. Build coalitions. Form or join unions. Stand up for what is right and protest what is wrong.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Tell that to the person I am talking to. I am not saying voting is all that matters. But it does matter and in 2024 we only have two options unless you want to throw away your vote on a third party that has zero chance winning.

[-] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

So you know what state that person resides? You've confirmed they live in a swing state where their vote for president actually matters? (This is not me advocating against voting since local/state positions are important, but if you're focused on president, only a handful of states really make a difference at all).

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I am talking about all elections. My state is voting Trump with out a doubt, but it wont stop me from voting. And who knows? Maybe another epidemic will hit that republicans will ignore and my state might end up blue?

[-] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

My state is ruby red and even the fairly large city I live in is red. Begging people to vote specifically for biden in situations like ours only makes people more apathetic since they know Biden has no shot. But if you tell people how to be more politically involved outside of voting, they'll be more empowered to want to vote just so they can get people more aligned with them in their local and state elections. It's the state government in red states like ours that will enact awful policies that we will actually feel. Pushing an unpopular president as the main reason to show up to the booth will only make them stay home instead.

Tangential: Covid is still killing a ton of people every month (though it gets better in warmer weather). This past January had over 10k covid deaths that were largely ignored by Biden and pretty much everyone else who are desperate to show how "good" things are now. But also, I'd caution against being hopeful for another pandemic that would wipe out conservatives since it's tiptoeing on fascism, which you're trying to be distinctly different to, eh? If a huge portion of Americans are fascist, America will be a fascist nation. I've heard conservatives wish that CA would sink into the ocean and that NYC would get swept away from a hurricane and I hope to god we haven't ratcheted so far that now democrats are wishing and hoping for the deaths of their political enemy.

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