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[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have no faith in them be able to pass something like this. Not when this is what the Republicans have been dreaming of for the last 50 years. But I hope they keep trying.

They haven't. The ruling is only 40 years old from 1984. And it was actually a Reagan era interpretation based on Reagan EPA era. Not sure when the Republicans changed their mind on this though.

Edit: this probably is a trump era, fauci backlash, change. Maybe tea party roots. But this level of anti intellectualism and Republicans getting nominated to dismantle and not govern didn't exist until probably 2010. Mitt Romney, Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield probably all wanted and supported agencies to do their bidding. Mitch used his power to guy like Anit Pai in the FCC which Obama approved....

[-] smnwcj@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago

Definitely tea party roots, libertarians have been against it for ages.

Reagan really kicked is off on the trajectory of privatization, trusting corporations to bed good stewards of the people. It was a steady trajectory really kicked in to high gear with the recession since blood was on the water

Now the right hates any part of the government that doesn't hold a gun, and would rather drink poison than impede corporate profits.

[-] dynamic_generals@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Just so we’re all calling a spade a spade, tea party roots = Koch roots

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Now the right hates any part of the government that doesn't hold a gun

They hate parts that hold guns as well, because they tell them what they can and can't do with guns

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Interesting, I was going off the NYT summary when the news broke:

Forty years ago, when Chevron was decided by a unanimous but short-handed six-member Supreme Court, with three justices recused, it was generally viewed as a victory for conservatives. In response to a challenge from environmental groups, the justices sustained a Reagan-era interpretation of the Clean Air Act that loosened regulation of emissions, saying the Environmental Protection Agency’s reading of the statute was “a reasonable construction” that was “entitled to deference.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/us/supreme-court-chevron-ruling.html

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago

They saw chevron as useful when Republicans had control over all the major agencies, but with gov agencies driven by experts and scientists who can ignore the Republicans screaming then chevron isn't helping them anymore. And that's part of why they try to get as many partisan judges into the system as possible, to get their way through corrupt courts instead.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Completely disagree. First of all there's a difference in Reagan Era and Reagan endorsed. However it's not just Chevron we're talking about here. It's the idea of dismantling the regulatory state in general. That's much older than Chevron. That sentiment can be traced back to Phyllis Schlafly. That sentiment can be traced back to the John Birch Society. That sentiment can be traced back to the business plot.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Ideological successors. Agree with your post.

They've been coming for Chevron for at least 50 years, but they also fight regulation at every turn.

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Chevron is 40 years old. How can you come after it for at least 50 years?

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Before Chevron there was Skidmore Deference, and they came for that.

Maybe I should have said they've been coming for all deference. Or ~50 years, for the pedants.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 4 days ago

It's a compromise position. Under Chevron, Conservative justices couldn't strike down regulations that put limits on corporations. At the same time, more liberal justices (leftist justices don't really exist) couldn't reverse agencies that had been captured and start ending regulations.

This ruling only makes sense for their position if they think they can hold onto the judiciary indefinitely.

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