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People bringing up asmongold saying "I hope they don't make it political" about MGS3 remake as though that's an inherently ignorant thing to say. I've played MGS3. It is an incredibly cheesy game targeted at teenagers with incoherent politics on the level of a james bond film. You have people running around saying the series is anti-war or whatever the fuck. Maybe you can find some buried recordings with the characters talking about some CIA op to topple governments or something. It is not front-and-center. All I can really think of is Ground Zeroes that has you infiltrating Guantanamo Bay. Peace Walker also has you fighting alongside some group who were socialist IRL.

Anyway I just say all this so you aren't as let down as I was when you play the MGS3 remake expecting some sort of full-throated communist propaganda.

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you pay any attention at all to what was happening on screen at any point in the game

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

(me creeping around tranquilizing & fultoning random mercenaries to brainwash into my private army/cult) yes this is very Leftist,

[–] jack@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The games never advance a meaningful socialist/Marxist/leftist position. But they are consistently hyper critical of US politics at home and abroad to an extent that is anti-imperialist, anticolonial, and anti-capitalist. The politics are all negative but still good. One game's final boss is the president.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In mgsv you are assisting the mujahideen against the red army

[–] jack@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

Yeah good point, definitely not political

[–] Philosophosphorous@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

to be fair Kojima is probably a Trotskyist, there's a whole radio monologue by Ocelot about how 'this flag doesn't mean anything here' if you call while looking at the USSR flag in MGSV