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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I finally got around to watching it. Biden did not look like a corpse. He looked and sounded like a fucken eighty year old man because he is. Trump's unending torrent of lies was unhinged and that doesn't get covered. Biden looked as fucken pissed as an old ass dude can when he clapped back about his son not being a loser and that was pretty good. Everyone is clamoring over the obvious. Biden is fucken old. We know this. This is what Trump will be like at the end of the next presidency if he is elected but far more insane.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden was bad for the first 10 minutes. By the 40 minute mark he was fine but he already lost the audience and the tiny attention span of modern Americans is evident.

That's... Whatever. I get it. We're in the tiktok age of short discussions. Expect more of this moving forward.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think that’s true. He was especially bad for the first bit of it but throughout he was stumbling over words, mumbling, he was hoarse. And then he got worse at the tail end too and forgot what he was even saying during his closing. Also what’s up with the listing things in numbers over and over and over? The whole thing was really awful to listen to and I’ve never heard him sound older honestly.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Using numbered lists is a common tactic in debates and other public speaking when you have prepared talking points you want to hit.

Basically it's a mnemonic technique to help make sure you list all of your best points/pieces of evidence. You list them in the same order every time so that to recall the next point on the list you just need to remember the overall topic and the number that you're on. That way it's easier to contextualize the memory and retrieve it consistently.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did everyone forget Biden's 2020 performance?

When Biden is being forced and trained like this, he's awful. It wasn't until the 2nd or 3rd debate where all the debate-prep finally decided 'Let Biden go out there without prep and just be more honest with himself / honest personal style" that Biden did well.

I should have known that "Weeks of debate prep at Camp David" was a bad idea.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Luckily, presidents duties and performance in their job is not dependent upon these stupid "debates."

Anyways, Biden has always been an absolutely horrible public speaker. He mumbles, stumbles over words and rambles on. That's not his string suit, but it doesn't particularly matter for his job performance.

However, yes he is old. But at least he surrounds himself with incredibly talented staff, picks amazing leaders to run in his cabinet, and seems to generally listen and take advice.

Which is the polar opposite of what trump does., in so many ways.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We all know he’s old. That’s the problem. His time is up and the sooner he accepts it, the sooner we can look for a replacement. Believing he is the only one who can beat trump is ridiculous.

[–] wesley@yall.theatl.social 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's too late. If the Dems wanted to switch candidates they should have started 2 years ago. There's not enough time to get aligned on a new candidate and ramp up a presidential candidate capable of the turnout necessary to beat Trump. And there's too much at stake.

Biden dropping out would be a huge gift for Trump at this point.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Biden running is a huge gift for Trump

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

He's already the incumbent. You'd need Roosevelt Reborn to come down from the fucken skies to have a chance in this polarized landscape. I dont think switching would pay off. I think its a checkmate.

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you throw out Trump’s out right lies he preformed better then Biden and debated fairly well and was reserved. I say that as someone going this is really the best America has to offer. Biden will do just fine in office he has a good team of people around him. This debate was not gonna change my mind on who I am voting for. Just sucks where we are at

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

If you throw out the lies what's left is incoherent ramblings and statements like "black jobs".