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I don't know what was wrong with Joe Biden. It's hard to imagine that they ever would have asked for a debate if this was the way he is normally. We've seen him recently holding press conferences and giving speeches and he seemed to be fine. They said he had a cold so maybe he really was on drugs — Nyquil or Mucinex or something that made him seem so shaky and frail. Whatever it was, it was a terrible debate for him and if he does stay in the race (which is almost certain in my opinion) the campaign is going to have a lot of work to do to dig out of the hole that was dug last night. The media smells blood and they are circling like a bunch of starved piranhas.

. . . For some odd reason, moderator Jake Tapper told Trump in the beginning that he didn't need to answer the questions and that he could use the time however he wanted. Trump ran with that, essentially giving a rally speech whenever he had the floor and was unresponsive to the vast majority of the questions. He made faces and insulted Biden to his face, at one point calling him a criminal and a Manchurian candidate. If anyone had said 10 years ago that this would happen at a presidential debate they would have been laughed out of the room. 

After the debate when most of the country had turned off cable news or gone to bed, CNN aired its fact check. And it's a doozy:

It sure would have been good if even some of that epic litany of lies could have been checked while people were still watching. The decision to have the moderators sit like a couple of potted plants woodenly asking questions about child care while Trump responded with irrelevant lies was inexplicable. Why did they even bother to ask questions at all? They could have just run the timer and let the candidates talk for two minutes each about anything they wanted. It probably would have been more enlightening.

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[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 days ago

You already gave up. Don't try to blame it on the time left being only 4 months. If you're willing to for for a genocide enabler you're already commenting in bad faith.

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You're talking like there's even a independent candidate that has the experience and willingness to do this. Normally it takes a life time of experience to even apply for the position. Trump being a complete nobody throwing money to get elected was a bad thing and now you expect some random guy on the Internet to find and sell an alternative to the American people 4 months before an election and beat both 2 people that've already begrudgingly won the election and can at least claim to have some experience. It isn't giving up to admit somethings impossible. I ain't giving up on becoming an astronaut if I can't do it by next week. If you'd like a 3rd party candidate feel free to find and prop someone up but best case they aren't going to be ready for a presidential run until 2028.

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago

I see you have the 4 months so we have no choice talking point locked in. The Democrats got you with that one. Stay reactionary. 👍

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I look forward to the new independent party candidate you prop up to win in 4 years. Good luck buddy.

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago

Nice strawman. I never said this was possible. Stay classy .world user.

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

What the he is your point here if you think it's impossible. Both candidates suck, someone else should run, no one can be prepped to run in time, so... do nothing. That's your master plan. Responding to you is a collective waste of time for everyone myself included.

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