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I've noticed a lot of weirdo "libs" but actually just fascist-minded clowns online get super obsessed with BUT HOOOOOWWWW DO YOU MAKE MEEEEE GIVE UP MY PROPERTY????
They seem to fundamentally misunderstand understand everything.
Socialists, communists, even a lot of anarchists aren't those cushy liberals they see on CNN talking about law and order and due process.
You will simply be told "all your properties and assets have been restored to the people. Remove yourself from this place" exactly one time, given some reasonable time to comply and surrender everything to whatever authority, and if you don't do it willingly it will simply be taken by force. And yes if you overly resist that force you might get killed. OH I GOTTEM I GOT THE LIBERAL THEY JUST WANT TO KILL LANDLORDS
Yes. Yes, I do. I want a state that forcefully takes into its collective possession all the private property and assets of all the capitalists and distributes things like land and housing in an equitable way. And anyone who resists such positive change is an enemy of the people and can justifiably be forced into compliance via state violence. What is adequate and necessary to force compliance including shooting them dead.
I hope one of those weird right wing liberal types finds this and finally has all the answers they seem to desperately seek all the time. Yes, we want enemies of the people dead. Don't be an enemy and you won't have to be in fear!
I mean the really funny part about these clowns is that vast majority of them don't actually own any capital to speak of. They're just exploited workers who side with their exploiters because they think that they have a chance to one day become a member of the exploiting class.
True. Even the ones who have some sort of real wealth, like they own their home, have a significant retirement IRA, or whatever would still benefit from a rising of the tide, if you will.
They also seem to misunderstand (if I’m kind I’d say it’s due to purposeful miseducation they received) the difference between your own personal property, which depending who you ask would probably include your home (a modest home anyway, mansions, ehhhhh), your tv, whatever petty shit you’ve acquired.
That’s all opposed to private property ie privately owned properties which are owned solely to extract value from other people. Now days in the US anyway this is mostly rental properties. A family might own 10 houses renting 9 at extortion amounts, typically double or more any loan they have to repay on the property, and just living purely by sucking money from others. So yeah those people would have all their houses except one taken and distributed in any sort of just system. People seem to have it in their heads that like I or some group of people want to take grandma’s home and make her live in whatever the fuck they’re imagining- something horrible probably. No, no one is advocating for that. I just want all the other grandmas (and everyone else) who are forced to live under tyrant landlords to not have to do so.
They actively ignore the violence done systematically to a large portion of society daily which will continue on forever if not stopped and focus on the solution being less violence done over a short period of time to a small portion of society. A cop beats a homeless man to death while a landlord sits on an empty or unaffordable to rent house- this is fine! I say take 9 out of 10 properties- I’m literally satan! Maybe they’ll get it some day, who knows.
I'd say it's mostly due to uncritically listening to whatever they are told and being part of a more-privileged portion of society that is subjected to less systemic violence.
Sure, some people DO just hold on obsessively to the idea that one day they will truly "make it big," but it seems to me that many liberals are wandering around perpetually lost as to how to address their complaints about society. Once they become exposed to compelling evidence and logic that explains the contradictions they've been confounded by, they'll slowly start asking more questions beginning with "why?"
After that, it's just a matter of time before thinking, "what is to be done?" Maybe I put too much faith in humanity, but I believe most people want an egalitarian society but lack experience with critical thinking and have never had any exposure to the foundational theory exploring how to accomplish this goal.
Yeah definitely agree with that, and then of course there's the gentry. This is a really fun read about them https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/trump-american-gentry-wyman-elites/620151/
Capitalists have made sure that the people of the west think "private" and "personal" property are exactly the same thing. So you say "Communists want to abolish private property" and they hear "The COMMIES are coming to steal your TV that YOU EARNED WITH YOUR HARD WORK! THEY HATE YOU! THEY WANT YOU TO BE MISERABLE!"
It will be MINE!