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“(With) today’s Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed. For all practical purposes, there are virtually no limits on what the president can do. It’s a fundamentally new principle and it’s a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law even including the supreme court of the United States.”

Throughout his address, Biden underscored the gravity of the moment, emphasizing that the only barrier to the president’s authority now lies in the personal restraint of the officeholder. He warned vehemently against the prospect of Trump returning to power, painting a stark picture of the dangers such an outcome could pose.

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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I like how every single one of these comments are blaming Biden and the Democrats for a supreme court ruling that the conservatives and Republicans enacted. How about we put the blame on the people who are actually doing the terrible things?

This is why the Republicans keep winning btw, because they're united.

[–] swunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 months ago

Why doesn't Biden just illegally overturn this ruling? He has immunity

[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Watched the debate, this is a verbatim quote I pulled from the transcript, Biden: "And if I’m elected, I’m going to restore Roe v. Wade." Why does he have to wait for re-election?

I expect Reps. to strip rights and will always blame them for that. The flip side of that is I expect Dems. to restore them, which isn't happening and so they should be criticized. It's just always "we'll fix it in the future" which is why I put the biden quote in.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Because the Republicans control Congress, and at this point only an act of Congress can restore it.

It comes down to this: a Republican president would veto any abortion protection law, but a Democratic president would pass it. But the law has to get to his desk first.

[–] seanziepples@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Only congress can do something and they tried and failed because we didn't have enough of a majority. Vote down-ticket blue to get as much control as possible.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-republicans-block-bill-codify-roe-wade-abortion/story?id=84627147

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago

"Ain't no foolin'..."

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you don't put down a rabid dog and get bitten, I'm not going to blame the dog.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We're not talking about a diseased animal, we're talking about people who are making conscious decisions knowing what the results will be. I can and so absolutely blame people for that.

Your metaphor insinuates that Republicans are unable to control their actions. If that were the case, that's all the more reason to vote and get them out of positions of power.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand. No reasonable person thinks that republicans are good or not to blame. Blaming the republicans won't stop them from taking power. They have done and continue to do what they have said they will do and the Democratic party has done nothing to stop them.

It's like your sky diving, and your parachute fails to open. Do you get upset at gravity or the guy who packed your parachute? Yeah, gravity is what is going to kill you, but it doesn't care, that was the plan. The guy who packed the parachute is your only real way of controlling the situation.

The Democratic Party packed the parachute and it isn't opening. Hopefully it does soon.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And now you compare the Republicans to some natural force, as if they are inevitable and inescapable. Gravity has no will, no plan. It just is. Republicans have a will and a plan. Getting mad at the Democrats for not being good enough to stop that is akin to victim blaming. The Republicans should never have gone down this road in the first place.

Do you blame the thief, or do you blame the homeowner for not having better locks? Who do you hold accountable?

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

The Republicans should never have gone down this road in the first place.

I think this is the crutch of our disagreement. My question to you is why? The Republicans want power. They want to turn the US into a Free Market Theocracy. Why shouldn't they do what they are doing? I personally think what they are doing is bad, but why should they care?

Getting mad at the Democrats for not being good enough to stop that is akin to victim blaming.

I am more interested in your response to my first point, but I couldn't let this stand. It's such a bad comparison. Both the Dems and Republicans are fighting for power, they are not a victim and an aggressor, they are both aggressors.

Do you blame the thief, or do you blame the homeowner for not having better locks?

I blame the police for not arresting the thief when they revealed their plans to rob my house before they robbed it.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should Unite with people that are left of Richard Nixon some day soon.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

This is what I'm talking about. Maybe you should stop reacting with fear and spite to everyone who's trying to help you and actually contribute to defeating the fascists instead of sitting around complaining about losing all the time.