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Well, AI made our search unusable dogshit. But AI also made us miss our climate goals, so (apnews.com)

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[–] self@awful.systems 117 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (54 children)

there’s this type of reply guy on fedi lately who does the “well actually querying LLMs only happens in bursts and training is much more efficient than you’d think and nvidia says their gpus are energy-efficient” thing whenever the topic comes up

and meanwhile a bunch of major companies have violated their climate pledges and say it’s due to AI, they’re planning power plants specifically for data centers expanded for the push into AI, and large GPUs are notoriously the part of a computer that consumes the most power and emits a ton of heat (which notoriously has to be cooled in a way that wastes and pollutes a fuckton of clean water)

but the companies don’t publish smoking gun energy usage statistics on LLMs and generative AI specifically so who can say

[–] Specal@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (15 children)

On one hand, yes let's get annoyed at companies for using alot of energy. On the other hand, we have known our energy needs will be exponential for decades yet we haven't tackled the issue. We still burn fossil fuels, despite having the ability to not do that.

Being angry at companies for building a new technology yet not being angry at the government and NIMBY fuckwads is a little... Backwards imo.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

this is literally the same whataboutery the crypto guys tried. go away.

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago

you might be amazed to find out they do this cryptobro shit a lot

[+] Specal@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 3 months ago

we absolutely talk every day about how the governments are failing us go get your own solar panels and run your mlm bullshit there

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

holy shit we didn’t even have to dig to find out you’re garbage

thank you for making this the easiest ban ever

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

and to think I refrained from blocking on the first whatabout comment, a rookie error

[–] Specal@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's funny because both of you misunderstood my comment in order to reaffirm yourselfs. I don't give a shit about trans people, they have as much right to exist as anyone else, I was talking about the right wings nonsense.

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

yeah don’t come back on an alt you fucking moron

I don’t give a shit about trans people

that much is clear, you use trans folks like a fucking cudgel to make a shitty point. but I also don’t believe this:

I was talking about the right wings nonsense.

given you seem to be a bitcoin right-libertarian at best. it’s time for you to fuck off, again

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can't see the posts since they were removed, so this is amazing. I have no idea how he went from crypto-scented energy whataboutism to transphobia in three comments flat.

Also two bans in three comments is some quality speedrunning, awful-systems any%.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

you can view them on home timeline if you really want to, but probably you'll regret it

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 5 points 3 months ago

I don't even know what that means, fortunately I guess.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

presenting a DM from someone who absolutely doesn’t have internalized transphobia, never heard of it:

So I’m gonna reach out and say that you hastily misunderstood “and that shit about trans people”. I’m talking about the hate speech from the right wing. Keep me banned though that community is full of people who really have a low level reading ability.

when a libertarian-presenting shithead with not particularly deep political takes posts “it’s a distraction just like the bullshit about trans people” with no other qualifiers, it’s absolutely understood as a dogwhistle for “people need to shut up about trans issues”

and if I’m wrong about that? using trans folks to make your bullshit points is still fucking transphobia. don’t do this shit. it’s fucking concerning you can’t understand that.

e: also, and this is important: the republicans are planning a fucking genocide of trans folks and you’re calling it a distraction. what the fuck is wrong with you.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“keep me banned though”

the fuck? they thought a pestering third-avenue dm would have resulted in a different action?

“that community is full of people who really have a low level reading ability”

absolutely fucking perfect, 300/10, no notes

what the utter belligerent fuck

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I can’t tell whether their intended point with that last one was “I said all the dogwhistles and none of you agreed instantly!”, or a genuine intent at stating that there was a perceived shallowness in our communal reading comprehension

and either case just makes no goddamn sense whatsoever, what the fuck

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