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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Being in the White House drastically ages the president, VP, and senior staff due to the insane amounts of stress and long hours that come with the job.

It's not easy.

Biden has been in the WH for 12 years.

trump for four, but he's too fucking stupid to be worried. So the stress never got to him. If he saw something he didn't like, he ripped up the paper, tried to eat it, then flushed it. And trump would have 100% forgotten about it immediately.

Which is why they can be essentially the same age (18 months is nothing in your 80s) but Biden seems so much worse. Biden is used to thinking about what to say, trump just opens his mouth and rambles like he always has.

But with all that being said:

We need higher standards to get Dem voters onboard. A bad candidate that's better than trump is still a bad candidate. We don't need someone who tries to think of what to say but can't say it, we need someone that can think of a competent response and then communicate that effectively.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

but Biden seems so much worse

I don't get this take. Trump has been shouting incoherent word salad and confabulations for years at this point. Biden seems like a decent man who is too old for the job. Trump is a treasonous piece of shit rapist criminal who is also old and senile, and backed by actual fascists who want to take the US back to the dark ages.

I don't think voting will be enough, they tried a coup once and now they're being invited to try again since there were no consequences last time.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Trump has been shouting incoherent word salad and confabulations for years at this point

Exactly...

He's never put thought into what comes out of his mouth, he just opens it.

So while both are experiencing normal effects of aging, Trump's never made it a habit to use his frontal lobe, and that's where this shit hits first.

So there's no observable difference in his behavior.

Like, imagine you suffered a stroke and lost the ability to ride a bike. If you're Lance Armstrong it's a huge deal. If you're some 80 year old fat fuck who thinks exercise lowers your "battery" it has zero effect on your life because you dont ride a bike.

Biden was pretty unanimously labeled "the greatest modern political orator" back in the 80s. It wasn't even really debatable.

Seriously, he was at the absolute peak of his game and no one could touch him. But he lost it a long time ago, it didn't start recently. Look at the 08 debates and he's more than serviceable still, but already a shadow of his former self.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And to add to this, it's not always obvious that a dementia patient is having an episode if you don't have the context and structure to recognize what they're saying is nonsense. They can string together a perfectly coherent story and what tips the listener off is that they're referring to someone who is long dead or an activity they couldn't possibly have done recently.

And Trump isn't tripped up by forgetting things, because his statements are already made up. He can just flow through and keep telling his story because it's already all just stream of consciousness bullshit. He never needed facts in the first place because he can just say whatever he wants or divert into talking about sharks and electrified boats.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

Auto-coups are a lot easier than coups of a rival, because you control the police/military that would defend the government and can delay them from responding, like Trump did.