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[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Now I understand why americans need guns.

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Too bad this is an extremely rare use case, but yes this is exactly the INTENT of the second amendment.

[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it actually work? Because I fear that it doesn't and just gives cops/the state even more excuses to further militarize police in the long teem.

I'm not antigun, but this seems like an arms race you can't win.

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It does. Armed peaceful protesters don't get hassled by the police. These are armed peaceful protesters and they were not hassled. It worked for the black panthers. Cops only brutalize the weak.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Well I'm not sure it worked that well for Fred Hampton or the MOVE guys.

There's always a danger of escalation, and the boys in blue have no upper limit.

[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Armed peaceful protesters don't get hassled by the police.

There were quite a few shoot outs between panthers and cops, no? Some even argue that the increasing use of "swat" was, in part, because of black panthers.

Again, I'm not speaking out against armed groups, but it seems a bit romantized to say "armed protesters don't get hasseled"..

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure there are some statistics on the mental profiles of cops the people who end up becoming them being people who enjoy power.

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this is a failure of the system. The failure to identify and reject these sick fucks.

[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Failure of the system, or working exactly how it was intended?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago
[–] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well if you think about it the population has the numbers, so do the math

[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority is not willing to die in armed struggle against the state..

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

More will be willing once they realize that the state will kill them whether they support it or not.

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