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Biden at peace if he loses to Trump: "As long as I gave it my all" (www.axios.com)

submitted 5 months ago by UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org

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Seriously, Joe, do you not know the stakes? "Sure, America fell to fascism, but I tried my best." For fucks sake, Trump has straight up said he was going to be a dictator, and the Supreme Court will back him all the way. It's unbelievable that all that stands between us and the fall of the republic is a man in his 80s who isn't fully cognizant of the situation.

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[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In the voting booth, incumbents ALWAYS have a MASSIVE advantage.

Polling is incredibly unreliable. That is people that pick up the phone and talk to pollsters. Do you know anyone under 60 who does that? Additionally, a lot of those calls are on landlines. How many people do you know who have landlines? How many of those are under 60?

The polls are heavily skewed towards boomers. This is the last election where boomers will be relevant. Millennials and Gen Z matter more in this election than ever before.

Replacing an incumbent 3-4 months before an election is the stupidest fucking idea since trickle down economics.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Polling is incredibly unreliable. That is people that pick up the phone and talk to pollsters. Do you know anyone under 60 who does that? Additionally, a lot of those calls are on landlines. How many people do you know who have landlines? How many of those are under 60? The polls are heavily skewed towards boomers.

All these incorrect assumptions of yours could have been answered simply by actually reading the poll report before making claims about it:

On June 28, 2024, Data for Progress conducted a survey of 1,011 U.S. likely voters nationally using web panel respondents.

https://www.filesforprogress.org/datasets/2024/6/dfp_post_first_presidential_debate.pdf

Literally entirely online.

Polling has long since shifted away from relying on landline cold-calls. And I agree that now is certainly sub-optimal for a change; that should have happened during the Primary (you know, where candidates present themselves to voters to find out who voters want), rather than the DNC pressuring other democrats out of running. But better late than never.

In the end, you and I are probably never going to see eye-to-eye, because of one fundamental difference of beliefs; you believe Biden might win. I don't.

Since it seems clear that Biden isn't going to step aside, I really hope you're right and I'm wrong, but I'm not banking on it.