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[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's so ironic to see the "vote blue no matter who" people argue against replacing Biden when data shows a high probability of him losing. If they suggest we vote blue no matter who then why are they so ardently telling us that it has to be this one guy?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"the data" would also suggest that a late replacement could be destructive and have an even Higher probability of losing. More importantly the process to oust Biden is highly unlikely to succeed. Therefore the very act of pushing for these kinds of changes only demonstrates weakness for the GOP and accomplishes nothing but push away any remaining undecided voters toward a party that at least has a clear favorite. I wish people would support the current candidate more aggressively rather than destructively attempt for replacement when doing so is futile.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago

While you are at it, you might also wish for people to vote Blue. It's not going to happen though - independents refuse to tow a particular party line, preferring instead for candidates to earn their votes, and they will watch the world burn, or even turn to Trump to help it, rather than give in. This is what true democracy looks like - sometimes people lose, when enough people on the other side vote to win. We can only control ourselves - e.g. if the Dems were to pick a replacement, there may be a better chance, while otherwise we simply sit back and roll the dice to see whatever happens.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who will replace him? Michelle Obama doesn't want to run, Gavin Newsom has full support for Biden, and Kamala Harris is already VP.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure plenty of people would step up if he actually stepped down. What you're seeing now is people doing damage control to keep from undermining his campaign. It doesn't mean that they're actually telling us their true beliefs. Newsom says he fully supports Biden, and if he stepped down, Newsom would fully support whomever took his place.

I think Harris is just as bad of a candidate as Biden or Clinton. Michelle Obama is an option but I don't see why we have to treat this like a TV reboot where we keep rehashing the same names and faces that we saw previously. I'd personally love Bernie or AOC, but I know the party leadership hates leftist candidates and will actively work against them, so we're probably screwed either way just like we were in 2016.