On the 14th of July in 1789, a crowd of nearly one thousand protesters stormed the Bastille in Paris, France, a major event in the French Revolution, commemorated annually as "Bastille Day".
In the months running up to the uprising, the people of France were facing a dire economic crisis, food shortage, and increased militarization of Paris on orders of King Louis XVI. The Bastille was an armory and prison, perceived by many as a symbol of royal authority in the city.
On the morning of July 14th, a crowd of approximately one thousand people surrounded the Bastille, calling for the surrender of the prison, the removal of its cannon, and the release of the arms and gunpowder stored there.
After negotiations stalled, the crowd surged into the courtyard of the Bastille and were fired upon by troops in the garrison. In the carnage that followed, ninety-eight protesters and one defender of the Bastille were killed.
Governor Marquis de Launay, fearing his troops could not hold out, capitulated to the crowd and opened up the Bastille doors. He was captured and dragged towards the HΓ΄tel de Ville in a storm of abuse. While the crowd debated his fate, the badly beaten Launay shouted "Enough! Let me die!", kicked a pastry cook in the groin, and was then promptly stabbed to death.
As news of the successful seizure of the Bastille spread throughout the country, revolutionaries established parallel structures of power for government and militias for civic protection, burned deeds of property, and in some cases attacked wealthy landlords.
King Louis XVI first learned of the storming the next morning through the Duke of La Rochefoucauld. "Is it a revolt?" asked the King. The duke replied: "No sire, it's not a revolt; it's a revolution."
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Is there any kind of good way to get crackkkers to stop being such racists? But not in like, an outward white supremacist way.
My dad is one of those "I could never be racist" guys, and yet he seems to be convinced that everyone in the not-ok bracket
is some sort of sleeper agent being taught RADICAL ISLAM TO DESTROY THE WEST from a young age, like everybody who lives in the middle east ('cept Israel lol) is some kind of super Bin Laden or some shit. It's ridiculous, I cannot even bring up Iraq without him going on about how they don't support freedom and democracy or some shit.
Is he too far gone? Do I have to beat him to death with a copy of Settlers or something?
I would really rather not...
I honestly kind of hate white people, and shit like this led me to that conclusion loooooong before I met beloved hexbear. The first time I saw someone say "cracker" on this site, I was like
because the average cracker thinks it's ok to say shit like this to me.
Have you tried asking him point blank, "So in what way is your belief w.r.t. this different to what a klansman believes?"
In my limited but not 0 experience, people have to convince themselves. So if you want to facilitate anything, you want to let them turn their minds on and work through their thoughts. If they feel any kind of pressure, they'll lock up and use their default reflexes.
More than you'd believe, asking a question like that is about your tone of voice being curious instead of harsh/skeptical. Id also be ready for a "what do you mean?" in response and offer some entry level alternative (Citations Needed)
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. I can probably hammer him with articles about Israeli atrocities, popular support for resistance groups, and I did go over that stuff a bit, but he just thinks ISLAM is a death cult or whatever, it seems.
I'm really incredibly bad at tone,
but I can try, not a bad strat...
Yeah it's super important to do it in a way that doesn't lock them up. The tricky thing with not being very direct is that sometimes you feel like you got somewhere, but the person just goes and easily reverts any progress you've made because of cognitive dissonance. The ideas you introduce clash too hard with all their existing brainworms so they have to choose one or the other, they likely will just choose their existing brainworms. Being more confrontational will get them to be defensive and bring up whatever thing gives them pause about the new information you show them, which will give you a chance to address those things ahead of time, but if they get too defensive they'll be unwilling to change their minds. So it's a balancing act.
Passive racism is pretty insidious. Basically everyone has racist tenancies because we were all raised by racists in a racist society. I like to think of myself as a recovering racist or an anti-racist, not that I don't have any racist ideas but that I am actively trying to purge any racism I recognize. Anyone who thinks of themselves as being 100% not a racist is probably pretty racist. Anyone who argues back when someone points out their racism is probably pretty racist.
Sometimes explaining this to people can help them realize they are doing more to defend racism than they are to destroy it.
I know right, this shit blows. Especially because it's barely even passive in this case. I could give it a go explaining that to him...