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[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 25 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I wanna agree, especially with how performative the fist pump is, but at the same time, someone did die, right? That's the part that makes me lean towards this as a real assassination attempt. But maybe it was an accepted cost of doing this?

I dunno, at this point I think I just need to take a break from news communities and wait for real investigations, I'm losing my mind with the speculations

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 24 points 3 months ago

Fascists aren't known for being squeamish about "acceptable losses"

[–] Shadehawk25@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago

Do you really think banon, stone, or trump care if other people have to die if it sells their plan?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

someone did die, right?

Crisis actor duh!

Isn't that what these cunts said about Sandy Hook?

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While I may sound morbid - are there any details on those important that were hit? I've seen no photos, names, ideas or anything - which is very surprising considering it was live and the amount of cameras around.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if the shooter was actually a Republican or cop or something who didn’t like Trump and the RNC won’t let his identity out.

Or if it’s the dad of some teen Trump raped.

Probably it’s still just the Sercret Service wanting to track down everyone even tangentially involved and detain and question them all before the guy’s name is out there.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Name of shooter has been released- no names on bystanders

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Leaning toward false flag as well. It feels very scripted. I'd wager the dying bit wasn't part of the gunman's agreement.

[–] udon@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Step 1: Nobody talks about Trump, everybody is busy discussing how old Biden is. All attention with the dems

Step 2: Stage an assassination attempt with some blood but also good photos with a fist pump

Step 3: Kill the shooter so they don't talk

Step 4: Profit and everyone talks about Trump now

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Such a sad day. Richard Simmons died 😭😭

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was actually thinking of the person in the crowd but yeah, gunman too. At the same time, if it were a setup, "killing" the gun man would be the move since there would be no one to investigate, right? But an innocent bystander killed?

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, no one in a crowd supporting a domestic threat to our constitution is an innocent bystander; but ignoring that, killing off one of his own peons to get the media stirred up in an advantageous way is 100% in character for Trump. He doesn't give a fuck about any one member of his cult.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“I could shoot a person in broad daylight and never get arrested.”

I can’t say if it was or wasn’t false flag. What I can and will say, is if it wasn’t a false flag, the. The fist pump was a stupid and incredibly disrespectful thing to do.

Those secret service agents are shielding his life with theirs once they decide to move, you move and get in the truck and get the fuck out so everyone else can do their job or get to safety.

If I were one of them I’d have punched his gut and put him in a come along. (The punch is to double him over so he’s not making himself a target… also because I just don’t like him. Details.)

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone discussing this possibility keeps focusing on the person dying, but why does anyone think these people give a shit?

In fact, a real death of a normal Trump supporter not only adds more fuel to the fire, but it would add an extra layer of obscurity for the people ultimately responsible. Because people like you will say it can't be real.

Again, I am not saying this is what happened.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

For sure. At this point, real or false flag are both plausible. Folks like Trump wouldn't bat an eye at killing off a couple supporters if he could spin it for a positive gain.

I'm mostly just waiting on info on the gunman to draw a conclusion. Is he the kind of person who'd want Trump dead, or the kind of person who'd agree to shoot at the crowd behind Trump for a fat paycheck?

If the former, it's too bad he missed.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Shooter died on a rooftop and one bystander. No reports on who they were yet though.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

The people in the crowd as collateral damage is the last thing I'd use as evidence that this isn't fake. In fact, if this were a conspiracy (probably isn't), I'd 100% expect these people to prefer someone died so as to stay better hidden.