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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 101 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Not only that, Valve has done a TON of work to outsource as much of the process of running Steam off to the users and developers. Self-publishing, a minimum of manual moderation, automated greenlight processes, automated ratings, database tags, controller configs...

Their entire business model is to make money with as little effort as possible. I've been saying for ages that people vastly underestimate how ruthlessly profitable their business is. We didn't have the numbers, but we roughly knew this is what was going on.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 61 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Gabe owns six yachts, people should always keep that in mind when praising him, he's not the friend of the average Joe, he just realized there's profit to be made by not pissing people off, but he's still making enough profit from us to be a billionaire while the majority of people live paycheck to paycheck.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 83 points 4 months ago

he just realized there's profit to be made by not pissing people off

It's weird that I'm nostalgic for the good old days when the ultra rich understood that

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 months ago (13 children)

he just realized there's profit to be made by not pissing people off

I'm okay with this. Same deal with Costco's founders and CEOs. It'd be nice if billionaires didn't exist, but they do, and most of them made their profits while pissing everyone off.

I'll praise the ones that at least try to do some "good" for people. Even if their "good" is "Let's make obscene amounts of money by charging affordable prices and being the 'good guy' in the industry".

[–] john89@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not okay with this because it incentivizes companies and influencers to work together to lower people's standards.

People are proud to accept garbage these days.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I ask genuinely -- what alternative do we have?

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, in this case, yarrrr. but in other cases, i think, probably also yarrrr. but like, physically.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Steam won our over piracy, as did Netflix when it first came around. And even Uber -- people stopped downloading cars for years when Uber was in its heyday!

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit Gabe Newell is a billionaire (it's just at the second paragraph). This does change my view of him and steam. So uncool.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago (13 children)

The dude's the CEO of the most successful online gaming platform ever. Yeah, he's gonna be a billionaire.

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[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What did you expect? He owns Valve who has the place to buy video games on PC with Steam.
But you'll be hard pressed to find a store front that is not owned by a billionaire or some publicly traded corporation.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

cough GoG cough

I'm agreeing with you, btw.

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

GoG

or some publicly traded corporation

CD Projekt is a publicly traded corporation.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Exactly. Even with their DRM-free practices and such and how people want to advertise so much for them here on Lemmy, they're still a publicly traded multibillion dollar company.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

I expected him to be cool, I guess

[–] Yamayo@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

people should always keep that in mind when praising him

Why?? Good for him, stop being so envious. It's thanks to Valve I started to buy games instead of pirate them anyway. Good prices and good practices.

A billionaire from a game industry is not the same as a billionaire from a real state company or a bank. Games are not a basic need.

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 months ago

Nah, a billionaire is a billionaire. There's still people being exploited to get that much money. I don't completely disagree, though - at least Gaben didn't make Valve completely evil and yeah, it's better than fucking up the property market for generations of people.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires shouldn't exist. The government should regulate all these stores and force a max of 5%. They are clearly colluding and aren't competing in good faith.

This is having a negative impact on the industry, a lot of indie studios would have an easier time surviving if they weren't bled dry by what essentially is a soft monopoly.

Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony and Steam are all guilty yet you would never defend any of the other ones. Steam spends a lot of money convincing everyone Gaben is just a really cool dude and not your average billionaire.

[–] Yamayo@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Steam spends a lot of money convincing everyone Gaben is just a really cool dude and not your average billionaire.

Or maybe he is a really cool dude...

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gaben owns 6 yatchs and spends between 70 million and 100 million a year maintaining them. He's in the same club as Bezos and the rest.

[–] Yamayo@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (16 children)

Stop it with the fucking yatchs already, seriously. Just look at the differences between Vale and the other companys you mention. If you can't see any, you are just a troll.

You can't say anything bad about Valve other than "they make a lot of money". It gets boring.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Billionaires exist because you and me and people like us overpay for stuff, they accumulate wealth by making sure we don't. Gabe's wealth comes from the surplus generated by Valve, if they make that much surplus then they could lower their cut by a fucking lot and so could publishers that also enrich multimillionaire and billionaires.

There are no good rich people.

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