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"Hillary is the best choice, she's guaranteed to win!" - the democratic party in 2016.
She was never the best choice of the Democrats available, but you must admit we had no idea how goddamned stupid people were back then. She should have won. Turns out, yeah, russia was listening.
I don't know who down voted you? They have proven several times that Trump's inner circle was with Russian businesses that controlled advertising on Facebook. It's not that far of a stretch.
They probably worked harder than they had to. She really is an unlikable piece of shit.
Ridiculously qualified, intelligent, experienced, liberal as we could hope for at the time.
Just so unlikable. And shrill!! Oh, and not even a man. Pfft.
She lost the most winnable election she could hope for. Must be the Russians.
She wasn't running against Woodrow Wilson. That's literally the most winnable race as long as Taft doesn't spoil the vote.
The russians helped a lot.
One thing not being mentioned here is that people were tired of establishment politicians who don't change anything. So many people voted for Obama hoping for change, but then said "fuck it" and voted for Trump.
Yes. Very stupid, very gullible people. We have a lot of them. Because of reasons.
Hilary Clinton is an extremely condescending political elite that seems to have about as much humanity as a lizard.
She's a perfect representation of the DNC.
Disagree. She’s spent the vast majority of her life in politics to do some good. As a woman, she broke a lot of rules and is still to this day mercilessly attacked for it.
Was she so perfect even the shitheaded communist idiots loved every single thing she did? Astoundingly, unbelievably, Nope. Was she the best choice for president of all the candidates on the ballot in 2016? Yes. Without a doubt
Is she forever going to be shit on for not being perfect in every way to all people? No. Just until the current living generations are dead.
Whatever. People need to shit on her, go for it. Shit yourselves a bust of Hillary you can shit on. You can meet all sorts of wonderful Limbaugh fans in there.
Lol I don't think it's a good thing if it takes everyone dying for your reputation to improve. That is a pretty wild argument.
Also, you're just calling everyone that supports communism a shit headed idiot? For real?
And she was a terrible, weak candidate that brought nothing progressive to the table. That's why she lost to Donald Trump.
It was painfully obvious that Bernie was the better candidate. He energized people. He would have stomped on Trump.
But instead the DNC had to give Hilary "her turn" and now we're in this mess.
Being an angry Hilary supporter is ridiculous and honestly kind of funny.
It is a pretty wild argument. It’s an incredibly dishonest and fucked-up thing right-wing media has done.
No, not everyone. Just those too precious to help others, and those who’ll sow discord because they don’t understand how American politics works.
She was unelectable. I called it in 2012. But she wasn’t terrible or weak. She actually did very well as far as building a base. And she was damned progressive, I seriously hope you fuckers are just tripping balls all the time ffs. “Nothing progressive”, you either know shit or that’s a goddamned lie.
Preach it, I was there. In this magical fantasy world where politics follows our monarchical decrees, Bernie would have been our guy. Enough fools didn’t agree. Yes, even if we account for DWS’s fuckery. Hestill didn’t carry enough primary votes. Ok? It sucks. Yeah.
Yep. Bob Dole - same thing there. JEB! was supposed to get his, but that’s how this shit was always run. Listen, what these whiny shitheads fail to realize is that national party politics - the kind that actually function, that change things - are the same no matter what the platform is.
They got a worn copy of Das Kapital and a handful of Stop Oil soup cans? Great! They’ll have the same challenges, the same fight, and the same bullshit. Because politics is not new. And being a precious Li’l Progressive who just can’t bring themselves to help stop fascism is just the first of many failures to endure while they learn all the things everyone has been telling them the whole time.
Yeah cause fighting trump is a goddamned knee-slappin’ HOOT. How great to have violent racist idiots on one side and arrogant, naïve chucklefuck “progressives” or whatever the fuck they are on the other.
Did we forget Bernie existed and got shafted that election?
Bernie lost. Even accounting for the shafting. I wish he didn’t. But it happens.
*establishment democrat, not liberal
FUCK. Goddamn fucking liberal is not liberal is bad is left is bougie is FUCK.
Talking with a hallucinating AI in the form of a lemmy community. Is anyone here over 25 and a registered American voter? Anyone? Couple of people, okay. Just a couple huh. Well, makes sense.
Um... ok. You have a problem, bud.
Yeah.
Al Gore should have won too, but here we are.
"Well, she may not be the best choice, but it's her turn." -- insiders.