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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

even on lesswrong the guy going through his numbers for how concrete behaves

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Roko even said the 'I think agricultural waste products like straw can be substituted for sawdust so maybe you are paid to take it off their hands.[emph mine]' line. which is always a good sign when somebody is trying to the economically feasible math.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

yeah let's just divert entire global straw output so that Roko can build his libertarian crypto paradise

also straw is not a waste, wtf is he thinking

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe he was thinking of straw that has already been through the horse?

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, horseshit. It is a key libertarian building block.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

New form of pykrete made out of manure and ice. Eventually the Icebertarians will get use to the smell (an AI company is also working on a CRISPR fix), and with the problems of excessive manure and thus nitrate in places like the Netherlands, you are paid to take it off their hands! Win win!

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

@Soyweiser Why not make pykrete out of neoreactionaries?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 4 months ago

They’d have to classify a proportion of themselves as subhuman first, and then they could make history’s most literal implementation of the mudsill theory.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Time to Cronenberg it up. Anybody want a new appartment in Roko the skyscraper? Long live the new flesh! No pets!

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All hail the new flesh! No pets!

I'm ded

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago

Next time I'm first going to look up the quote (which is apparently 'Long live the new flesh!") before posting, but you have immortalized my error. :)

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A Turdburg on a turdberg. Not be a shining city on a hill, but it might have high albedo.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, it would shine. Like shit on a barn door.

[–] ibt3321@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even if it was waste, the sellers would notice and start charging for it. Libertarians have a fucked up definition of what 'waste' also with bitcoin mining.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago

straw goes for something like $70-100 per ton (in poland; depends on region and other factors) sawdust is probably cheaper

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's hard for me to even imagine a more apt description of a privileged silver-spoon moron than thinking straw is waste and people would pay you to get rid of it.

Human minds are amazing, I can't even hypothesise what thought processes, if any, led him there

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago

And even if it was waste, that you are planning to build megastructures with it makes it no longer waste very quickly, and as there was no demand for the product before and now it is in high demand, the price will prob do some very interesting things. A suggestion was made to use sugarcane bagasse which has no other use it seems. But that would then also quickly get a use and increase in price, which would also do things to the price of replacement products, like sawdust, or straw. And I assume that if the price of straw in the world rises a lot due to this megaconstruction a lot of farmers would be unhappy, but yeah fuck the poor countries.