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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This election is a choice between boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Between someone who is indifferent and someone who has literally promised to make your lives SO MUCH worse in every possible way.

You had your adorable little protest non-vote in 2016, with your "Hillary Clinton just doesn't 'do it' for me" and the result was Donald farking Trump. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You had your adorable little protest non-vote in 2016, with your “Hillary Clinton just doesn’t ‘do it’ for me” and the result was Donald farking Trump.

Here is my problem with this mindset. I didn't have "my adorable little protest non-vote". I was energized and hopeful for Bernie's campaign, but the Dem's and their moderate voter base had their adorable little "Bernie couldn't possibly win enough votes because Socialism, so you have to vote for our candidate that no one is excited about" push, so I sucked it up and voted for Hillary. And the result was Donald farking Trump. Because moderate Dem's would rather have Trump than meet Progressives even half way in the middle.

And now here we are, with another run of a candidate that fails to inspire passion amongst his voter base, going against Donald Farking Trump. And once again, I'm being told that I need to vote for the Dem candidate that I mostly just disagree with less than Donald Farking Trump.

So when does it stop being the fault of progressives who get disillusioned with the status quo? When does the fault start to lay with the Dem's and the moderate voters for preferring a Trump presidency over trying to meet the Progressive voting bloc halfway?

I'll vote for Biden (again), and I absolutely recommend that everyone do so just to do damage mitigation, but I'm getting so tired of the blame game moderates try and run just to deflect legitimate criticisms of their lackluster candidates.

Edit: To any on the left that are feeling really jilted by comment's like NutWrench's, please try and ignore the bullshit blame Dem's try to fling our way and remember that the key to long term success is solidarity, including with those who would blame and ridicule us. We need to play the hands we are dealt the best we can, and Biden is currently our "strongest" hand.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

boring corporatists

Nothing boring about a 110 heat index or a river so slick with filth that the smell alone is hazardous to your health. Nevermind the sky-high electricity bills created by our energy-hungry AI industry or the enormous landfills choked with plastic waste or the privatized schools that serve up a McEducation for an exorbitant price.

There's this baseline claim that Biden will keep the state of the country the same. But we're not a fly trapped in amber, here. We've got infrastructure that's still deteriorating despite the promise of Infrastructure Reinvestment. We've got grocery bills that are still rising despite the Inflation Reduction Act. We've got real estate consolidation in the residential and agricultural sectors that are steadily raising rents. We've got a finance industry that is dead set on forcing everyone onto a highly speculative cryptocurrency system. We've got war profiteers racking it in overseas while defense contractors at home sink billions into a militarized southern border.

This is under Biden. Yeah, sure, blah blah Trump worse. But our best case scenario still looking incredibly bleak.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We’ve got real estate consolidation in the residential and agricultural sectors that are steadily raising rents.

I'm so mad that buying land way out in the boonies and a pre built home depot ~~shed~~ house to plop on it is literally the only way I see myself owning any shelter...

[–] BeneGesseritWitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My brother took this exact route and its not as easy or cheap as it sounds. Even their nicest sheds have a ton of work to be done to make them livable, and after that you'll need even more expensive work to make them up to code for your state. Your best bet if you are serious is to find a plot of land with their water/sewage/electricity/postal address already there (and a driveway or gravel road too if you can, that was expensive and took months of paperwork for some reason)

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago

Kinda figures... Every other route I could think of ended up with the same results "will cost close to a regular house anyway." :/

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The result wasn't just Trump, it cost Roe V. Wade and the Supreme Court

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

And environmental regulation.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

The problem is that Biden isn't projecting "good".