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[–] natecox@programming.dev 78 points 3 months ago (3 children)

CNN? The channel that recently spent hours dissecting every stutter and stumble Biden made and just plain refused to talk about the vicious lies and ad hom attacks Trump spent the entire debate spewing, and just didn’t find it worth mentioning how he avoided answering several super important questions? That’s who they think the left gets news from?

Like, at least put the NPR on there lol.

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Your mistake is thinking democrats are "the left" lol

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's hard to explain in the US and Canada, where there are only two major parties, that they don't represent two ends of a political spectrum. They're just two dominant parties that have different ideas; on a lot of things, they even agree and don't hide it.

I wish we, as kids in society, had learned more about specific right-wing and left-wing policies in history and civics so that this distinction could be made more clear. Or at least that we were taught what liberalism is and what neoliberalism is and how they're different.

But we didn't and weren't, so when people think "liberal" they think "left," and we're all worse off for it.

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 months ago

But we didn’t and weren’t

Deliberately of course, precisely to maintain ignorance, and keep the Overton window firmly on the right..

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

so when people think “liberal” they think “left”

Ouch.

I guess both have crazy US-only meanings, because well, "liberal" is the core of the right-wing idea.

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 3 months ago

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. It's nuts that a word means something totally different in one specific area of the world because it's politically convenient to ignore what it actually means.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All such descriptors are relative; by definition, the Democratic Party is "left."

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only left US-politician in the last 200 years is Bernie Sanders. The rest of the democrats are just on the "left" side from every GOP statement. Which doesn't make the democrats left.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You say shit like that and expected to be taken seriously? Even if you were conceptually correct, Eugene Debs is right there. Educate yourself, son.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 months ago

Who said I expected to be taken seriously?

[–] natecox@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You may want to familiarize yourself with the term “colloquialism”.

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That doesn't magically make democrats "the left" (E: and therefore doesn't explain why they wouldn't be fans of CNN, being centrists, at best) lmao

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Their change has been fairly recent. They have a right winger running the show now and he wants to court more Republicans.

He was even quoted as saying (paraphrasing) "fox news has a good model to emulate, all opinion shows surrounding an actual news show."

/Vomit

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But that is a good model. Separate the opinion shows from the news shows.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

That's not what they mean, they already are separated they just act like they're news and have the little "opinion" thing on the bottom of the screen for legal purposes.

What CNN seems to be saying is they want more opinion shows than actual news. When your show is classified as opinion you can lie as much as you want as long as it's not slandering a corporation that will sue you (dominion and fox)

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 0 points 3 months ago

That's where they think Democrats get their news from. Notice the donkey.