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[–] IIII@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That actively works against the cause because it would do so much harm to the local ecosystems

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That is a short term problem for trying to fight a long term catastrophe.

I would prefer to not cause a mess, and further harm natural spaces, but as you can see. Not only are passive demonstrations not effective, they have severe jail time. So at this point, i see it as the most logical step

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

And as these sentences get handed down and there are more political prisoners and martyrs, more people will start to think that way.

Current eco activists tend to be very conscientious and considered about what they're doing. As it gets more popular, you'll get people joining who are considerably less measured in their actions, and the likelihood of drastic actions increases.

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Well a lot of them run through more or less suburban areas. So doing it there would have lower environmental impact while greatly raising awareness of how many pipelines run through populated places.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That would almost certainly only hurt poor neighbourhoods, and that's easy for the media to sweep under the rug. They've perfected the art of dehumanising the poor.

I think the reality is that we don't know the consequences. I mean, I'm not saying it shouldn't happen, but the effects are impossible to predict.

That's probably why environmentalist movements that tend to be full of only the most conscientious people have shied away from it. They would want to know what they were getting into first.

If things get bad enough that ecoterrorism becomes popular and a wider array of people take up the cause, we'll probably find out the answer to these questions.