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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 71 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

A surprising amount of those kiosks straight up abuse tipping culture simply as another form of payment. My wife has worked at two places where the money just goes to the owner and the employee never sees a tip. I’ve also been directly told the number of times that tips don’t go to the employees by the employees.

I don’t trust it. I only tip in cash if I do.

[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

yep where I'm at they say they go to us but afaik we get the same amount either way. I hit no tip for customers now.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I had a cashier do that to me once. I couldn't tell if she did me a favor or if she was thinking "I already know this guy won't tip."

[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

almost 10/10 they were thinking the former. shits expensive rn, service workers don't want people paying more if they don't have to.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Could it be construed that you intended to tip the owners of the establishment rather than the employees?

Considering wage theft is the biggest kind of theft we have, I think it’s an unfortunate fact that many employers don’t particularly care what’s legal as long as you can’t practically retaliate.

[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Most places have laws against tipping to employees that don't interact with customers in transaction. So owners, cooks, and managers legally can't get tips.

Edit: But those laws probably aren't followed at some establishments

[–] Mellibird@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

That does depend on the state though too. I worked in a restaurant where any tip on take-out/drive-thru/catering was spread among the kitchen staff. No manager can receive tips, but at least the staff preparing and packaging the food still have an opportunity to earn something extra. When I worked there, because of the tips, I earned an extra $2-$3 a shift.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

No, cause no one thinks that way. Tipping has always been for the workers.

[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

it absolutely is but no one has the money to take an employer to court even if it's a slam dunk case

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

That should be illegal. Back in the day, if it was an owner run company, then the owner wouldn't accept tips, even if you tried.

[–] hahattpro@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 1 points 3 months ago

It’s probably not. There might be an argument however by saying that technically you could’ve been interpreted as wanting to tip the business which includes the owner not necessarily the person working there.

It should be illegal though.